Tire Knowlege Needed

[askmrjesus]

Originally Posted by Porkchop

People keep telling me that bikes like that get raced in the vintage series all the time, and that they do just fine.

And they do. I've seen far less worthy machines on the track. You're not going to set any records, (well, speed records anyway...) but that's not the point of roadracing.

Originally Posted by Porkchop

The problem with the viff is tires, they are small. Like 110/90H-18 rear small....

...and if a wider tire is available that would fit like the Avon note says, what is a better tire size for a track day???? Tire size noob here.

Fatter does not always equal faster. You can, in fact, go backwards. Depending on the profile of the tire, and the stiffness of the carcass, stuffing a fatty on your skinny-ass rim, can result in a smaller contact patch.

These are not the droids you are looking for.

You'll be better served with tires that fit the rims, and paying very close attention to the pressures you run, and under which conditions you run them. In other words, buy a little fucking note book, and write that shit down.

That said, there may be a slightly over-sized tire out there that will give you more grip. Then again, more grip comes with slower transitions. So......

Find out who the fast guy is, and run what he's running. But wait, you ain't him. Shit. Those tires may not work for you. Now you are seriously fucked. Your tires are too big, bike handles like a wheelbarrow, and girls won't go out with you.

JC

[Porkchop]

Originally Posted by askmrjesus

And they do. I've seen far less worthy machines on the track. You're not going to set any records, (well, speed records anyway...) but that's not the point of roadracing.



Fatter does not always equal faster. You can, in fact, go backwards. Depending on the profile of the tire, and the stiffness of the carcass, stuffing a fatty on your skinny-ass rim, can result in a smaller contact patch.

These are not the droids you are looking for.

You'll be better served with tires that fit the rims, and paying very close attention to the pressures you run, and under which conditions you run them. In other words, buy a little fucking note book, and write that shit down.

That said, there may be a slightly over-sized tire out there that will give you more grip. Then again, more grip comes with slower transitions. So......

Find out who the fast guy is, and run what he's running. But wait, you ain't him. Shit. Those tires may not work for you. Now you are seriously fucked. Your tires are too big, bike handles like a wheelbarrow, and girls won't go out with you.

JC

Girls dont go out with me anyway...

But yes, the consensus on both this forum and vfrworld seems to be stick with the tire made for the rim. Looks like ill be digging a little deeper on the Pirelli and Avon 110/90H-18's.....

[defector]

Originally Posted by Porkchop

Looks like ill be digging a little deeper on the Pirelli and Avon 110/90H-18's.....

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[Porkchop]

Originally Posted by racedoll

I have nothing to add about the tires but I like my BTs.

On another note, if you don't want to pony up money for a track bike try hooking up with someone and do the 3 hour endurance race where you'd share a bike and the cost.

Doing the sprint races will put you in the hole quickly, even with a little series like this.

There are 3 endurance formats. There is the 20 minute mini enduro, the 40 minute mini iron butt, and the 3 hour endurance. Its a great idea, me and my buddy dave have talked about doing it.

Originally Posted by Hydrant

Sidebar.

Porkchop

Where do they call their home track? Thinking about getting into some schools this spring/ summer if work isn't too crazy. I'd probably take the CBR though.

Doll is correct. It was the old Fasttrax series that calls Nelson Ledges home. Nelson is up by Youngstown. They also race at Beaver Run (penn) yearly. Other tracks that get thrown into the seasons are Mid-ohio, Putnam Park (indy), Grattan and Gingerman (Mich). Come do the race school with us.... its only $125 and includes race school in the morning, a track day in the afternoon, and your comp license.

[Cutty72]

Originally Posted by Porkchop

Doll is correct. It was the old Fasttrax series that calls Nelson Ledges home. Nelson is up by Youngstown. They also race at Beaver Run (penn) yearly. Other tracks that get thrown into the seasons are Mid-ohio, Putnam Park (indy), Grattan and Gingerman (Mich). Come do the race school with us.... its only $125 and includes race school in the morning, a track day in the afternoon, and your comp license.

That's not a bad deal at all if you are close.

[Porkchop]

Originally Posted by Cutty72

That's not a bad deal at all if you are close.

I got mine for $100 at the CLE show. But still not a bad deal for all 3.

[derf]

Originally Posted by Cutty72

That's not a bad deal at all if you are close.

Thats not a bad deal if you are far either

[derf]

Back to the original question:

What is the bike going to be used for?
track only?
or will it be used as a street bike too?
What are the rules for the race series?
Are a specific tire mandated?
a tire brand?
how about DOT slicks?
is the investment (and continued investment) in slicks worth it for your goals?
would a spare set of wheels with your race tires be worth it for a street bike?

before you settle on a tire those are some important questions to answer

[Cutty72]

Originally Posted by derf

Thats not a bad deal if you are far either

1100 miles @ 15 mpg = 73 gal of fuel. 73 x $3.35/gal = $244.55.

So I'm at $370 and haven't put anything toward the bike yet, not counting the time it takes to get me there...

I think your "far" may be relative...

[Porkchop]

Originally Posted by defector

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Nice assist ..... I dont even know where to begin.