I hope you die Polaris

[anthonyk]

Originally Posted by Gas Man

Exactly. When does it stop?

When the premium you pay to keep the work in the US is justified by some increase in quality over offshore workers. I know lots of people like to think that there's always a loss in quality when you send stuff overseas, but it's just not true. Sometimes you get the same quality with lower cost, and in some industries (e.g. programming) you can get better quality overseas.

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by anthonyk

When the premium you pay to keep the work in the US is justified by some increase in quality over offshore workers. I know lots of people like to think that there's always a loss in quality when you send stuff overseas, but it's just not true. Sometimes you get the same quality with lower cost, and in some industries (e.g. programming) you can get better quality overseas.

Exactly! I have no idea why people think that good products can't be made overseas? no offense to factory workers but it's not rocket science... I've worked in factories and it is repetetive, mind numbing and BORING!!! Anyone can do it. What we need to do is automate factory work and get busy educating our population better so they don't have to work in factories (or join the military ) just to scrape up a living...

[smileyman]

All of the Toyota recall issues I am familiar with were design related and not QC issues...

Anyway I am not dissing foreign quality or trying to be racist. Mexican craftsman have skills, Italians hand make some of the graetest product ever, and everything I own that says made in Japan is high quality and built with pride.

I do think that companies like GM demand less or maybe expect less from products built overseas.

But that is not my arguement towards shifting jobs outsidethe US. My issue is that without jobs our economy can't turn around. Period.

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by smileyman

All of the Toyota recall issues I am familiar with were design related and not QC issues...

Anyway I am not dissing foreign quality or trying to be racist. Mexican craftsman have skills, Italians hand make some of the graetest product ever, and everything I own that says made in Japan is high quality and built with pride.

I do think that companies like GM demand less or maybe expect less from products built overseas.

But that is not my arguement towards shifting jobs outsidethe US. My issue is that without jobs our economy can't turn around. Period.

Uhuh...as I noted in the other thread, it's alright for you to talk all this mess while you drive your foreign car, ride your bike that is 90% foreign, watch your Korean/Japanese TV, type away on your Chinese, Japanese, Taiwanese, Korean computer... It's a vicious circle and I don't claim to have the answers either. You sure won't catch me riding a Victory anytime in the near future... I'm certainly not going to buy a product based solely on where it's made either. I will say this, if there are two equal products, at similar price points I will always buy the American made unit but that's as far as I'm willing to go.

[azoomm]

Originally Posted by Amber Lamps

You sure won't catch me riding a Victory anytime in the near future...

I led a demo at a local dealership here a few weeks ago... I'll just politely say it was an interesting day. They are certainly not BMW's

Any of you people complaining actually own businesses?