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Old 05-21-2010, 01:50 PM   #12
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You know that Lawful Contact means the cop needs a valid reason to pull you over or ask for ID.
Funny thing. "Lawful Contact" has been removed from the law, and replaced with "Lawful stop, detain or arrest". Why? Like I said before, "Lawful Contact" is not an enforceable legal term. There is no legal definition, so it can't be proved or disproved. It was a built in loophole.

The word solely, has also been removed after 3 Federal law suits were filed. Why is that important? It's important because in the original version, officers were allowed to take race or nationality into consideration, as long as it wasn't the only thing on their minds.

B. For any lawful contact stop, detention or arrest made by a law enforcement official or a law enforcement agency of this state or a law enforcement official or a law enforcement agency of a county.......... A law enforcement official or agency of this state or a county, city, town or other political subdivision of this state may not solely consider race, color or national origin in implementing the requirements of this subsection except to the extent permitted by the United States or Arizona Constitution.


So, the original intent and spirit of the law was pretty clear. It's been forced to change into it's Sunday School clothes, but it's still based on shaky constitutional grounds.


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Why don't you just say police are going to abuse the law like you would like to say and quit saying the law states you can pull someon over because of race? And I do agree they will abuse it (like most other shit cops have power over), regardless, that is not what we are discussing.
Maybe that should be what we're discussing, since we both seem to know that's what's going to happen.

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