Four Police Officers Dead - and Huckabee's career?

Smittie61984 · 11-30-2009, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by askmrjesus

It's an Obama conspiracy. Huck was the front runner for a GOP nomination in 2012, (25% vs. Palin at 23%). It would be much easier to run against a washed up Alaskan whore, than the Savior of Purity that is Mike Huckabee.

It wasn't easy though. Obama had to shoot those four cops, whilst wearing a Clemens disguise. No easy task, since Clements is much shorter.

Then he had to plant blood in Clemens's truck, which was found earlier today. He also had to have CIA agents pose as witnesses who identified the shooter as Clemens. Then of course there were the three or four people that heard "Clemens" (Obama) say that they should watch the news tomorrow, because he was going to "kill some cops".

The fact that Huck had already granted clemency to a guy who went on to rape and murder a woman (Wayne DuMond), and granted more prisoners clemency than the three governors before him COMBINED (including Clinton), is just a huge coincidence.

Mike Huckabee in two-thousand never.

JC

Alex Jones???

It could hurt but regardless the election if Huckabee runs will be on turn out. Everyone has their sides and will stick to it. Democrats will say that Huckabee researched the guy for years and decided himself that he was a good christian man showing that Huckabee hates kittens. While Republicans will claim he had no clue about him and was forced by Democrat moles in his office.

I'm sure he made the decision based on his advisers but probably should have looked into itmore. I don't know why someone with that many charges would even be brought up to the governor.

askmrjesus · 11-30-2009, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Smittie61984

Alex Jones???

It could hurt but regardless the election if Huckabee runs will be on turn out. Everyone has their sides and will stick to it. Democrats will say that Huckabee researched the guy for years and decided himself that he was a good christian man showing that Huckabee hates kittens. While Republicans will claim he had no clue about him and was forced by Democrat moles in his office.

That covers the bases, but Independents deliver elections these days.

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Originally Posted by Smittie61984

I'm sure he made the decision based on his advisers but probably should have looked into itmore. I don't know why someone with that many charges would even be brought up to the governor.

From what I've gleaned, Huck has a history of favoring clemency for those who have written to him personally. He didn't let 1033 felons loose based on advice from advisers, or anybody else. He's what I would call a pathological Christian. He can't help himself. What's that? You found Jesus, and you're sorry? Well ok then, off you go. Who am I to judge?

He ignored vehement pleas from the prosecutors of both the DuMond and Clemens cases, and as a result, five people are now dead.

That the fact that he's blaming it on "The System", just goes to show what a coward he is truly is. When you screw the pooch as bad as he has, you need to own it, and admit your mistake. At the very least, he could whip out some "I'm not perfect, just forgiven" bumper sticker philosophy to soothe the base, (I've got five bucks that says he'll do something to that effect in the next two weeks, any takers?).

For the record, as a personal savior, I'm all about forgiveness. The thing is, it's not for everyone. Anyone who can't figure that out, has no place in the White House, or a Governors mansion, regardless of their party affiliation.

JC

101lifts2 · 12-01-2009, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by askmrjesus

....He ignored vehement pleas from the prosecutors of both the DuMond and Clemens cases, and as a result, five people are now dead....

Are you making this up? It happened in 1989 according to Huckabee on Fox last night. The rapings were not even done yet....

askmrjesus · 12-01-2009, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 101lifts2

Are you making this up? It happened in 1989 according to Huckabee on Fox last night. The rapings were not even done yet....

Two different cases, same result.

DuMond was in prison for rape. Huck let him out, soon after becoming Governor. DuMond then went on to rape and kill a woman, after his early release.

Huck: 1

People: 0

Clemens was let out by Huck, despite the strong recommendations of the prosecutor in the case. He went on to kill four cops.

Huck: 5

People: 0

Cops then shot Clemens.

Final Score:

Huck: 5

People: 1

Game Over.

JC

Smittie61984 · 12-01-2009, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by askmrjesus

Clemens was let out by Huck, despite the strong recommendations of the prosecutor in the case. He went on to kill four cops.

Well he wasn't let out by Huckabee, he reduced his sentence from 100 or so years to I think 45. Though I disagree with it, I don't believe Huckabee did too much wrong. Clemmons still had to go through a parole board which has more than 1 person on it and is the final decision. I also believe they have psychologists and input from others about wether they feel that man is capable of not being a threat to society. They got it wrong but I don't think Huckabee is anywhere near the main blame. There are violent felons who are let out and don't cause any problems once they let out. This one did and in a bad way.

I'm glad he's dead and I hope the only people who are hung out to dry in this are the family members who hid him and maybe future governors learn a lesson from what Huckabee did.

askmrjesus · 12-01-2009, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Smittie61984

Well he wasn't let out by Huckabee, he reduced his sentence from 100 or so years to I think 45. Though I disagree with it, I don't believe Huckabee did too much wrong. Clemmons still had to go through a parole board which has more than 1 person on it and is the final decision. I also believe they have psychologists and input from others about wether they feel that man is capable of not being a threat to society. They got it wrong but I don't think Huckabee is anywhere near the main blame. There are violent felons who are let out and don't cause any problems once they let out. This one did and in a bad way.

I disagree. In fact, I disagree with the entire idea of clemency, barring extreme circumstances. There was no new evidence is this guy's case. No startling revelations. The parole board and the Judge didn't petition on his behalf, as far as I know. They simply walked through the door that Huck opened.

It would seem to me, that the Governor of a state as screwed up as Arkansas, would have better things to worry about than the salvation of violent criminals.

"Pulaski County Prosecutor Larry Jegley, whose office opposed Clemmons' parole in 2000 and 2004, said Huckabee created a flaw in the Arkansas justice system by freeing the number of prisoners he did.

"(Clemmons) should have stayed locked up like the jury wanted him and we wouldn't even be having this discussion," Jegley said.

"I just have been figuratively holding my breath and hoping something like this wouldn't happen," Jegley said. "I just think that a lot of the people that were subjects of clemency during that period of time were some very dangerous people who didn't need to be let out."

Bingo.

JC

101lifts2 · 12-01-2009, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by askmrjesus

I disagree. In fact, I disagree with the entire idea of clemency, barring extreme circumstances. There was no new evidence is this guy's case. No startling revelations. The parole board and the Judge didn't petition on his behalf, as far as I know. They simply walked through the door that Huck opened.

That is not what they said last night. Huckabee told Fox News the prosecutor never even petitioned to keep the guy in jail. Take it for what it's worth.

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...It would seem to me, that the Governor of a state as screwed up as Arkansas, would have better things to worry about than the salvation of violent criminals.

He said on avg. they recieve 1200 cases a year. That is a shit load to go over. It was his job to review each and every one that was brought before him.

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"Pulaski County Prosecutor Larry Jegley, whose office opposed Clemmons' parole in 2000 and 2004, said Huckabee created a flaw in the Arkansas justice system by freeing the number of prisoners he did.

"(Clemmons) should have stayed locked up like the jury wanted him and we wouldn't even be having this discussion," Jegley said.

"I just have been figuratively holding my breath and hoping something like this wouldn't happen," Jegley said. "I just think that a lot of the people that were subjects of clemency during that period of time were some very dangerous people who didn't need to be let out."..

Someone is not telling the truth....