Why B group sucks

[shmike]

Originally Posted by Trip

How I handled it since I was never fast enough to ride advanced is to let the idiots first on the track (which they tend to be the first ones to line up) and they tend to be very aggressive with each other and slow themselves down. Let everyone go out and give it about a minute and then proceed out. You usually catch the easy back markers pretty quick, but it gives everyone time to spread out and as they tire themselves out from racing each other, easier to pass when you catch up with a cool head and plenty of gas left in the tank.

The only problem with that is it can take a lap or two before you thread your way through the douche bags.

[Trip]

Originally Posted by shmike

The only problem with that is it can take a lap or two before you thread your way through the douche bags.

depends on how small your track is, give them plenty of time to scatter and do a normal warmup lap (if you dont run tire warmers) and you can get in some laps before you catch up. If you are catching them in a lap or two that should be the back markers and you should pass them easy. The real douchebags up front will take longer to catch and if it doesn't, you need to be in advanced.

[azoomm]

Yet another reason why I eliminated B group altogether.

[shmike]

Originally Posted by azoomm

Yet another reason why I eliminated B group altogether.

So where do you place the mid-packers?

In with the newbies that are slow and nervous or with the fast guys that may be 5-10 seconds faster?

[azoomm]

Originally Posted by shmike

So where do you place the mid-packers?

In with the newbies that are slow and nervous or with the fast guys that may be 5-10 seconds faster?

With the newbies - and they have to earn the right to move to the other group.

It's actually working REALLY well. Unless you're approved for Group 2, you don't get to sign up for Group2. It means, they play nice and learn the track THEN move up. We also have 30-minute sessions... with four hours a day and 20-people in 1.8 miles of track "traffic" doesn't happen often.

[TYEster]

Originally Posted by shmike

So where do you place the mid-packers?

In with the newbies that are slow and nervous or with the fast guys that may be 5-10 seconds faster?

I think it usually depends on what they're capable of. If they can handle being passed midturn, if they can hold their line while it's happening, if they can just plainly hold their line without a major startle, if they don't continuously overbrake for turns, if they're predictable enough on the track and not taking random lines, they don't wreck? And last - speed. It's just a trackday, not a race. Therefore that's a relative in the equation.

These are all things I see based on the dividing of Elite's 2 groups, but ultimately it's up to managment and the instructors