Track Star vs Field Hero

smileyman · 02-24-2009, 03:28 PM

Lets do this pound per pound shall we.

Cardiovascular is extremely important as each racers heartrate increase to 140 beat plus for an extended period of time, lots of air consumed, lots of bike trainign for these fly weights. Strength in wrestling a hurtling 350+ pound beast into and out of corners while holding their miniscule weight in the saddle. Whatta think they weigh 115-130 lbs?

Then you look at an NFL lineman. Huge 6.5, 290 lbers throwing other huge 6.5 ft 290 lbers around with 30 second breaks in between. Sprinting 15 20 yards at a time. Hell even getting up after a play is a feat of strength.

NBA? same huge mammoths moving their feet faster than teh solid gold dancers on crack, not only covering the length of the court but also 10-12 feet vertically.

Lets not bring the baseball/steriods thing into it. I know those guys bat, throw, and run hard. Just don't think they have to be quite in the shape as the others as they have long periods of inactivity while playing the game.

Can we consider car racers? Sure but they aren't going to sell me on the physical strength part. Concentration and resistance to high Gs aside. They have to have the heart rate going on but really the wheel and the pedals don't give alot of resistance...

Boxers? Damn are they even human?

Taters Whore of an Ex wife? I don't even think she breaks a sweat

Mr Lefty · 02-24-2009, 07:42 PM

yeah not really a comparision imo... not that racers aren't phenominal athletes... but michael phelps, lance armstrong, urasan bolt, or any soccer player are more physically athletic. IMO...

take the average track star and average field hero... field hero is in better shape I'd guess...

Cutty72 · 02-24-2009, 07:47 PM

IMO
A true "athlete" (basketball football track etc) will probalby be in better physical shape.

A "field hero" (motorcycle racer etc) will be in better mental condition.

OreoGaborio · 02-24-2009, 07:59 PM

I used to run track & field where I did the 4x400, high-jump & pole vault, I've played soccer, baseball, basketball, I've skiid, snowboarded a few times, I've tried mountain climing, mountain hiking, etc etc etc..... Each of those activities requires a different aspect & level of fitness....

But how many here have tried to ride at or near 100% of your ability for roughly 40 minutes like the MotoGP guys do?

Me personally, the longest motorcycle race that I compete in is a 20 minute GP... and before I learned that it wasn't a sprint & I needed to pace myself, I was BEGGING for the white flag by the 15th minute.

Of course that's at Loudon, NH, one of the most notoriously technical & exhausting full size road courses in the States... There's hardly ANYWHERE to rest besides the front straight which is only about 1/2 a mile long.... but my point still applies... On some tracks it's extremely taxing to ride a motorcycle at that level for that length of time.

But to answer the question: I think it's about the same. All sports require top level conditioning to achieve top level performance.

Good question

EDIT: Oh, by the way... http://www.spearsenterprises.com/riders.html#rick
The Loudon Road Racing Series is one of the most competitive club racing scenes in the states and as you can see from that link, Rick Doucette wins multiple championships almost every year.... And he's as FAT as a motorcycle racer gets!

But as INCREDIBLY talented as he is, put him up against a guy with equal skill but who's in better shape.... No question who I'd put my money on.

Mr Lefty · 02-24-2009, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cutty72

IMO
A true "athlete" (basketball football track etc) will probalby be in better physical shape.

A "field hero" (motorcycle racer etc) will be in better mental condition.

you mean Track Star

and I agree... they'd be much sharper mentally I'd think... reaction time and what not

Cutty72 · 02-24-2009, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebbs15

you mean Track Star

and I agree... they'd be much sharper mentally I'd think... reaction time and what not

eh i got confused on what trip was talking about.

Mr Lefty · 02-24-2009, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cutty72

eh i got confused on what trip was talking about.

easy to do... trip himself does it often

Cutty72 · 02-24-2009, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebbs15

easy to do... trip himself does it often

I was all about taters whore anyway.

Trip · 02-24-2009, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebbs15

easy to do... trip himself does it often

suck it trebek

deals gap dragon slayer · 02-25-2009, 11:31 AM

It depends on the level of intensity applied...

I played soccer for YEARS... and I was always riding/racing too... Now days though... I admit... If its hot out, I get absolutely worn out from playtime in racer practice at the track. Its more of an endurance thing i think. Doesnt mean one is necissarily more fit than the other, just more conditioned for the particular circumstances.

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02-24-2009, 03:28 PM	#1
smileyman White Trash Hero Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NW Arkansas Moto: Buell 1125R Porco Rosso Edition Posts: 4,895	Lets do this pound per pound shall we. Cardiovascular is extremely important as each racers heartrate increase to 140 beat plus for an extended period of time, lots of air consumed, lots of bike trainign for these fly weights. Strength in wrestling a hurtling 350+ pound beast into and out of corners while holding their miniscule weight in the saddle. Whatta think they weigh 115-130 lbs? Then you look at an NFL lineman. Huge 6.5, 290 lbers throwing other huge 6.5 ft 290 lbers around with 30 second breaks in between. Sprinting 15 20 yards at a time. Hell even getting up after a play is a feat of strength. NBA? same huge mammoths moving their feet faster than teh solid gold dancers on crack, not only covering the length of the court but also 10-12 feet vertically. Lets not bring the baseball/steriods thing into it. I know those guys bat, throw, and run hard. Just don't think they have to be quite in the shape as the others as they have long periods of inactivity while playing the game. Can we consider car racers? Sure but they aren't going to sell me on the physical strength part. Concentration and resistance to high Gs aside. They have to have the heart rate going on but really the wheel and the pedals don't give alot of resistance... Boxers? Damn are they even human? Taters Whore of an Ex wife? I don't even think she breaks a sweat __________________ Arkriders.com To be the best you must first be willing to risk the worst!

02-24-2009, 07:59 PM	#4
OreoGaborio Tony's Crack Pusher Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Topsfield MA Moto: 2003 Aprilia Tuono (street/track days), 2006 SV650 (race) Posts: 428	I used to run track & field where I did the 4x400, high-jump & pole vault, I've played soccer, baseball, basketball, I've skiid, snowboarded a few times, I've tried mountain climing, mountain hiking, etc etc etc..... Each of those activities requires a different aspect & level of fitness.... But how many here have tried to ride at or near 100% of your ability for roughly 40 minutes like the MotoGP guys do? Me personally, the longest motorcycle race that I compete in is a 20 minute GP... and before I learned that it wasn't a sprint & I needed to pace myself, I was BEGGING for the white flag by the 15th minute. Of course that's at Loudon, NH, one of the most notoriously technical & exhausting full size road courses in the States... There's hardly ANYWHERE to rest besides the front straight which is only about 1/2 a mile long.... but my point still applies... On some tracks it's extremely taxing to ride a motorcycle at that level for that length of time. But to answer the question: I think it's about the same. All sports require top level conditioning to achieve top level performance. Good question EDIT: Oh, by the way... http://www.spearsenterprises.com/riders.html#rick The Loudon Road Racing Series is one of the most competitive club racing scenes in the states and as you can see from that link, Rick Doucette wins multiple championships almost every year.... And he's as FAT as a motorcycle racer gets! But as INCREDIBLY talented as he is, put him up against a guy with equal skill but who's in better shape.... No question who I'd put my money on. __________________ -Pete LRRS/CCS#187 ECK-Racing, Ironstone Ventures, Tony's Track Days, SV Racer Pine Motorparts/PBE Specialists \| Phoenix Graphics \| Woodcraft \| Moon Performance \| RJ's Motorsport \| Motorcycles of Manchester \| MTAG-Pirelli The Garage: '03 Tuono (Hooligan bike :naughty) \| '06 SV650 (race) Last edited by OreoGaborio; 02-24-2009 at 08:11 PM..

02-24-2009, 07:42 PM	#2
Mr Lefty TWFix Legend Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Denver CO Moto: 01 BMW F650GS Dakar Posts: 15,677	yeah not really a comparision imo... not that racers aren't phenominal athletes... but michael phelps, lance armstrong, urasan bolt, or any soccer player are more physically athletic. IMO... take the average track star and average field hero... field hero is in better shape I'd guess...

02-25-2009, 11:31 AM	#10
deals gap dragon slayer Addicted to Track Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: McKinney, TX Moto: 2007 Kawi ZX-10R Posts: 147	It depends on the level of intensity applied... I played soccer for YEARS... and I was always riding/racing too... Now days though... I admit... If its hot out, I get absolutely worn out from playtime in racer practice at the track. Its more of an endurance thing i think. Doesnt mean one is necissarily more fit than the other, just more conditioned for the particular circumstances.