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Old 12-12-2008, 04:57 PM   #71
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Old 12-12-2008, 05:27 PM   #72
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Ford, GM and Chrysler have a shitload of retirees and that adds big time to the cost of a car. They, for now while they can, are taking care of these retirees - it cost billions for them to do so and rightfully so - you work your entire life making a company money they shouldn't throw you in the dumpster and move on.
How many other industries, besides automotive and maybe the big aerospace firms, provide pensions and heath care to their retirees anymore?

Maybe people should start planning their own retirement savings, instead of blowing half their paycheck on boats and swimming pools like I see so many autoworkers doing.
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Old 12-13-2008, 11:00 PM   #73
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mud I want to share your big post with everybody on every forum...

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Old 12-14-2008, 02:22 PM   #74
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yes no problem.. spread the word for sure..

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How many other industries, besides automotive and maybe the big aerospace firms, provide pensions and heath care to their retirees anymore?

Maybe people should start planning their own retirement savings, instead of blowing half their paycheck on boats and swimming pools like I see so many autoworkers doing.
yeah i am not sure - good point.. one i can think of it airlines and they have been bailed out a couple of times if i remember right..
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Old 12-14-2008, 04:17 PM   #75
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How many other industries, besides automotive and maybe the big aerospace firms, provide pensions and heath care to their retirees anymore?

Maybe people should start planning their own retirement savings, instead of blowing half their paycheck on boats and swimming pools like I see so many autoworkers doing.
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Old 12-14-2008, 11:33 PM   #76
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Military. As they should.
Absolutely.. military is so underpaid it is sick.. part of the backwards nature of this country.. a useless non-contributing gang banger can catch a football give him millions.. a guy risks his life protecting our freedom - how's $20k a year sound? motherfucker please..

i did read in the paper today that the government agency that protects pensions is in big trouble - to the tune of billions.. just happened to see it on the front page..
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