Ok, part of what started this thread: We recently had a group ride consisting of all of our regulars, it just so happens that for each guy that rides, his spouse/girlfriend rides her own bike as well. So it's usually 4 guys and 4 girls and every now and then some different guys may tag along.
On this day, only my friend's wife rode. Well two guys decided to ride with us, none of us have ridden with one guy at all and the other guy had only ridden with one of us before. So we head up to some twisty roads and proceed to do our thing. Well to make a long story short the guy no one knew or had ridden with before was a BRAND new rider, had no permit or license, and did not tell anyone. He was riding a small Honda cruiser (shadow I think) but he was determined not to be out done by the only female rider in the group that day.
As you can read, several factors indicate trouble lies ahead for this guy. The only female rider happens to be the fastest female in our group and is faster than a few of the guys. Poor guy for trying to judge his talents skills off hers. Well he went into a curve too hot, stood the bike up and veered down the enbankment into a ditch filled with water. No serious injuries, but his nuts left a massive dent in the tank. Turns out the bike was borrowed not even his. His pride fully hurt he says a car crossed the yellow line, um What car? No car ever met us on that road.
I found out then that earlier at the gas station this guy had told my friend's wife that when we get to the curvy roads she should get behind him to avoid slowing him down. So after his wreck she apologized for sucking him into those curves!