adam corolla on OWSers
 

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/adam...lN5S-7jxLaI_Sw

“f–king self-entitled monsters“ who ”think the world owes them a living”

Reflecting on how things used to be “back in the day,” Carolla states:

“You took guys who built something, and you said ‘there’s a guy who accomplished something.‘ You didn’t say, ‘that guy didn’t pay his fair share.’ That guy paid millions of dollars last year, and you paid shi*t and you’re pissed at him?”

TROOF

I was just getting ready to post this.


Very Troof

Or this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQpXybTnGVg

There was a tibbit in SI about Houston Texans Running Back Arian Foster, He spent his bye week in NYC and actually went to the OWS protestors and asked them if they were mad at him for what he makes for his football salary and they in short said No because they felt he achieved the american dream by making his life successful by working hard and getting rewarded for his talents.

Kind of ironic...

Culture of ass-douchery
:lol

Occupy= Parasitic Infestation

that and he probably could have kicked the shit out of all of them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwgAU...eature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luo40...eature=related

I'm amazed that a rich guy would feel that way!!

(huge Corolla fan here BTW)

Was he born rich?

Not at all. Extremely hard worker and all around smart guy. Definitely a case of a guy who really earned his way....and got a bit lucky as well. He says he created his own luck by working his ass off though, which is fair enough.

And he's correct. It's not "luck," so much as being in the right place at the right time because you bust your ass to actually BE in the right place. You bust your ass to get your name out there and make contacts. Most hollywood people weren't simply "found" out of shear luck, they did all they could to get their names in front of the right people. Same with most people in higher positions in corporations. Sure, some of those people were born into wealthy families that helped get them in the right places, but many actually put themselves in the right places and busted their ass to get there.

These OWS people kind of remind me of my ex, who has been unemployed since May. She bitches that I earn a "bunch of money" and thinks I don't pay enough in support. However, the amount of support I pay is based on what the court system says I should pay, which is actually a pretty big chunk of my pay. I carry health insurance for my daughter, on top of paying support. I work two jobs and I'm also going to school to put myself in a better position to earn a higher paying job. I do all of this while still taking care of my daughter 40% of the time and making sure that when I have my daughter, I spend time with her. How do I do that? By having an extremely limited social life. Eventually, I'll get back to where I can have a normal social life, but right now, I don't have much option if I want to better myself and get into a better financial position in life.

Yet my ex says she's not lucky enough to be able to work two jobs. Um, she's not even working ONE, and that's completely by choice. Instead, she earns unemployment (supposedly, since I've never seen any documents to that fact) and she volunteers at my daughter's school, helping one of the teachers. Taxes, health insurance and child support take away 45% of my income from my primary job, yet I'm "fortunate" enough to have two jobs. It's actually not that tough to get a job in this town, I see signs all over town that places are hiring, yet my ex prefers to volunteer at the school while earning unemployment and bitching about how much I earn and how little she thinks I pay in child support. [/rant]

Really? The OWS folks I know have full-time jobs. Weird.

He was lucky enough to ride the coat tails of Jimmy Kimmel and build up a name for himself (which requires talent)

Corolla's lesson to the kids is that you dont have to be smart or finish high school or really be good at anything. You just need coat tails to ride on and the ability to listen to a mentor.

Really its just the same ol' dirty hippie bashing that people have been doing for years.

Hippies: "The Vietnam War is wrong, we should not be sending thousands of young men to die in the jungle."

Hippie Haters: "Fuck you hippie, take a fucking shower and get a job."

Hippies: "Uhhh....yea....but what about this giant war that is destroying the country?"

Hippie Haters: "I said GET A FUCKING JOB" *turns nose up because he's been working at his Dad's mechanic shop for 30 years.*

They must get lots of vacation time.

First the Majority of OWS has never worked more than a year in one place. Some have had careers didn't find the success they feel they should have achieved and would like it to be someone else fault and not theirs that in their own eyes they have failed. Most can't tell you what the Glass Stegall Act is. ( When I asked one of the sign carriers what they thought of the Glass Stegall act they actually said "I haven't heard them play are they local?") What ever their purpose or ideas their tactics eliminate any legitimacy. They Crush small businesses where ever they occupy and cost the municipalities they are in MIllions in tax dollars that come out of the pockets of the 99% they would like to pretend the represent. Their most attended rally was in NY when the most optimistic estimates said there were 20K on their biggest day they actually numbered with less than using the most optimistic numbers.0025% of the city they were in. (that by the way assumes that all of the people that were there were in support and all from the city both are doubtful) OWS is known to most Americans as "The Parasites in the Park."

Bowater Jersey paper company just paid two executives 4 million in bonuses in NS. They've threatened to shutdown the mill which directly supplies 1000 jobs to my area. They're doing this because they're not making enough profit. Our idiot government is giving them 25 million to stay open.

25 million to a company that can afford to pay 4 million in bonuses... in all honesty, they'll likely shutdown anyway. But, THEY will be 25 million richer on top of the tax breaks and reduced power rates the've been granted to stay open.

They'll just keep fleecing us and you until we're all bled dry. But you're worried that some dirty hippies are costing cities a few hundred thousand dollars. You've definitely bought into what you're being sold. Hopefully there can be some reform to stop things like this from happening.

Nobody is saying that the dirty hippies deserve a mansion and a Porsche. What they are saying is that corporations shouldn't be earning billions of dollars on the backs of your people. They're saying a CEO should not make more in a day than an average employe of his makes in a year when they're running their companies into the ground to squeeze every last dollar from people who have to work two jobs to support their deadbeat exwives with child support.

You seem to be worried that they'll get a piece of your pie. But honestly, your pie isn't that great. Nobody even wants it. They just want a fair chance at being able to accomplish a living and a life without working a 70 hour week and paying down debt for the next 20 years to pay for an education.

Whoa now.... Who has forced these kids to take out all these loans? Maybe you shouldn't go to college if you can't afford it. Nobody that's who. Besides, when I hear that a college football coach gets paid several million a year.... I understand that a ceo makes a ton of money a year, and maybe more than you think they should be but who gets to set their wages? I want to be able to make as much money as my talent and drive will allow without some government agency setting the limit. Or do you think that they will just stop at ceos? Maybe I shouldn't be able to make over $70, 000 a year.... Maybe everyone should get the same rewards regardless of their talent or effort... Maybe the welfare rat with 15 kids should have a new car in the garage.... I just bought a new one.... That's not fair is it?

T Mall Respectfully, good for the Executive that Negotiated the Deal I wish it was me. You seem to be looking for Fairness. The world is not a fair place (thank god it isn't, I and most of the people here would still be in jail, having been caught EVERY time w committed a crime) The complaining about what someone else makes really does prove Mr. Corolla's point.
The "Parasites in the Park" have to Date cost the municipalities they are in 100s of millions of dollars. (not a few hundred thousand) Boston alone in excess 18 million. I can't speak to the Canadian losses here in the US it is rapidly approaching a billion dollars. They offer no solution only on going whining about it isn't fair.You want fair I suggest a well monitored sandbox. While I agree the best answer is that getting government out of all businesses and that includes subsidies as well as getting out of what people get paid. My message to the "Parasites in the Park" Is go accomplish something , if you have a solution present it, work to get support for it ,and get it voted on. Get out of the pockets of those of us who go to work every day,and stop crushing the livelihood of the small businesses around your infestation. By the way I have never called them Hippies. The Hippies I knew in the early 70s at least had some level of conviction weren't frightened by hard work and were willing to accept responsibility for both the benefits and consequences of their actions. The Parasites in the Park whine if they get Pepper sprayed, or arrested. They claim to use civil disobedience as a means of free speech but don't want to accept the consequence of their actions. They are privileged Parasites and nothing More!
Since my core beliefs are libertarian, I believe the Government is a Necessary Evil always Necessary, and Always EVIL.

T Mall Respectfully, good for the Executive that Negotiated the Deal I wish it was me. You seem to be looking for Fairness. The world is not a fair place (thank god it isn't, I and most of the people here would still be in jail, having been caught EVERY time w committed a crime) The complaining about what someone else makes really does prove Mr. Corolla's point.
The "Parasites in the Park" have to Date cost the municipalities they are in 100s of millions of dollars. (not a few hundred thousand) Boston alone in excess 18 million. I can't speak to the Canadian losses here in the US it is rapidly approaching a billion dollars. They offer no solution only on going whining about it isn't fair.You want fair I suggest a well monitored sandbox. While I agree the best answer is that getting government out of all businesses and that includes subsidies as well as getting out of what people get paid. My message to the "Parasites in the Park" Is go accomplish something , if you have a solution present it, work to get support for it ,and get it voted on. Get out of the pockets of those of us who go to work every day,and stop crushing the livelihood of the small businesses around your infestation. By the way I have never called them Hippies. The Hippies I knew in the early 70s at least had some level of conviction weren't frightened by hard work and were willing to accept responsibility for both the benefits and consequences of their actions. The Parasites in the Park whine if they get Pepper sprayed, or arrested. They claim to use civil disobedience as a means of free speech but don't want to accept the consequence of their actions. They are privileged Parasites and nothing More!
Since my core beliefs are libertarian, I believe the Government is a Necessary Evil always Necessary, and Always EVIL.

Did a survey did you?

You asked one, so it must be most? Hmmm....

I've never even heard that particular term, therefore I conclude that you are mostly full of shit.

JC

I have to agree with nh. The OWSers are complaining to the wrong group. The corporations are simply taking advantage of the government's idiocy. All these people should be camped out on the steps of congress and at the homes of congressmen and senators, not at Wall Street. Government is the main problem due to their constant spending and constant bailouts. You want a solution? EVERYBODY needs to write letters to their congress persons and senators and tell them that if they don't get spending under control, they will ALL be voted out of office, regardless of their role, their party, or their voting records. And by getting spending under control, I mean to actually spend less than is earned, not create additional taxes to bring in more money just so they can match their insane spending. Social Security and Medicare need to be overhauled. All ridiculous government programs need to be cut or eliminated. Obviously, there will be some debate on what is considered ridiculous, but we all need to tell politicians that if this doesn't stop, they will ALL lose their jobs. Occupiers aren't saying that at all, they're just bitching about the amount of money corporations make. If they want to make a difference, they need to take their fight to Washington, not Wall Street.

:lol:

So you'd be OK with giving 25 million of taxpayer money, if you knew that 4 million of it was being spent on bonuses to 2 executives who weren't good enough to make the company turn a profit?

Homeslice I am very good with the idea that if I can negotiate the deal yes I wish it were me. If your government is sloppy enough to make such a deal shame on you. Mr. Jesus Check the major News outlet which have decidedly leftest lean you find the term quite common. As far as asking most no , I only asked a few. I am , relying relying on the ABC news poll. (An organization that has been the most friendly to the Occupy movement and the only one that had Occupy on it's front page today. (Now they are going to try a Hunger Strike, this should be good now they will bilk the Health Care Systems) Again I have no issue with the idea that Government Policies should change but these parasites do nothing more than annoy those of us paying taxes . The Parasite in New York have already cost Small business owners huge amounts of their livelihoods and the city it self tens of millions of Dollars! They are self indulgent parasites and nothing more. Destined for obscurity (getting there even faster than I would have thought) They will join the ranks of the Tea Party, the Reform Part the Dixiecrats and the Bull Moose party as things remembered as obscure political group recalled with a little Nostalgia and a great Deal of Embarrassment. I could be wrong of course I have 2 divorces that prove I make mistakes, that said check in with me 6 months after the next election and tell me more about this Movement let me know if it hasn't factioned out and been absorbed into the leftest fringe of the Democratic Party just as the Tea Party was Co-opted by the Republicans

I guarantee you that the payroll is far larger than $4 million. In fact, without even knowing the company, I'd bet it is well over $8 million.

Since you guys are so for withholding pay, how far down the chain does your anger go?

I mean, if the regular workers aren't good enough to help the company turn a profit and they cost over 1/2 of payroll , shouldn't their wages be cut too?

BTW, the company IS making a profit, per Tmall's post.

The hippy haters I know or have known do so more because of the spitting and the accusations of "baby killer" and the like.

Soon after my dad returned from Vietnam and left the Navy, a man came into his office trying to sell him something. When the man found out he was a Vietnam vet, the first words out of his mouth were "So how many babies did you kill?" He didn't make a sale.

There's a *little* more to the bitterness than just "they have long hair and smell."

Yea it sucks, but its a horrible truth. We killed thousands of babies, women and children. However the public's anger was horribly misplaced in many cases, as you illustrate here. We should've been spitting on politicians and calling them baby killers, not the poor kids that got drafted and sent to the jungles to die.

However, that has nothing to do with the current movement. I'd rather take Ron Paul's word for it than Adam Carolla's...

PAUL: In many ways, it’s a very healthy movement. I’m not one to say, “why don’t you get a bath and go get a job and quit crybabying.” I don’t like that at all. I think that’s a misunderstanding of where the unemployment comes from. The unemployment comes from policy, government policy, and it’s the federal reserve and the business cycle is not a consequence of free markets. That doesn’t mean I think they’re all perfect out there. [...]

When spontaneous movements occur in a country, the johnny-come-latelys like to join and redirect the original intent of the Tea Party Movement and the original intent of the Occupiers, so for that reason the political people get involved and they try to grab hold of the message, and I think that’s been the case on both sides.

http://thinkprogress.org/special/201...cent-movement/

Not to make light of what you've written, I just happen to be out at sea and don't have much time for a response.

All I have to quickly say is, When did it suddenly become ok to badmouth poor welfare recipients and admire the rich welfare recipients? It's taxpayer money going into those pockets. That 4 million in bonuses could have covered so much of their operating costs and keep 1000 people directly, and about 1500 indirectly employed, yet it went to 2 men. Who obviously are not doing their jobs right if they need government handouts to make their company work.

If the company were turning an actual viable profit, they wouldn't need 25 million dollars would they?

You didn't say that they NEEDED it.

In fact, you said they were turning a profit and threatened to leave, so the government is offering them money to stay.

If another town wants to attract them and is offering $15 million to move there and employ 1000 people in their town, should they stay put or present the offer to their current municipality and look for a counter offer?

If you read gunnut's post properly, the only way to avoid this is to get government out of business, entirely.

Just to turn it around on you..

The people on welfare with 25 kids, driving an escalade with 24's, sitting around getting high and drunk all day aren't the problem. The government is the problem because they let them work the system?

To the baby killer thing....EVERY war has collateral damage, or do you all think that no children were harmed during the intense bombing of Berlin or in Hiroshima and Nagasaki? I guarantee you that more children were killed that morning in Hiroshima in 5 minutes than were killed during the entire Vietnam war.

Quite frankly, I've always believed that people give government too much credit/blame. IMHO I have the most influence over what happens in my life. When I have it good and I'm doing well, I certainly don't give the credit to the government, why should I blame them when I fall on hard times?:idk: I'm sorry that you spent the last 6 years of your life getting a degree in medieval crochet techniques, borrowed $200,000 in Gov't loans (only $80,000 of which was actually spent on tuition, the rest to the "college experience"). Now low and behold, it's been two years since graduation but that $250,000/year job didn't find you while you were getting high and playing XBox in your mother's basement. Poor babies, no wonder you're pissed.

Works for me.

Our government has managed to contort themselves in to the business of rewarding irresponsibility and everybody is shocked that this results in some people taking advantage of it. Additionally this garbage ends up developing a kind of momentum.

Now that your hypothetical couple is getting their check anyone attempting to adjust the amount or restrict its use will be labeled as an inhumane asshole who only wants to put more money in the pockets of the rich (somewhat true since "the rich" pay the majority of personal income taxes). Not only that, but how many of those hypothetical kids are going to grow up to have their own set of 25 kids they can't support?

The crappy parents certainly deserve some of the blame, though there are still too many people who would disagree with that too, but the government has some culpability as well.

:dthumb: It's good to have you back, bro.

I don't want to start a chicken v. egg debate but I believe the responsibility for the problem in your example is shared. If there were no government programs, how would those people acquire those "necessities"?

goof pretty much sums it up.

True, but that's kind of like how anyone attempting to eliminate the Bush tax cuts is labeled a socialist (even though those cuts were deemed temporary)

Just wanted to comment on the college thing, while there are alot of people who get degrees in sanskrit or soem other major which opens them to jobs at starbucks and not much else, the people who actualy get degrees that lead to meaning ful jobs def have it a lot tougher with all the raising tuition and associated costs.

I graduated PA school in 2002 and to see that the tuition has more than doubled since then and not to mention the cost in books and supplies is staggering, and I went to a state school. To see tuition and these private schools going over 50k a year is ridiculous and I think thats something else that needs to be reeled in.

You can study Greek History or some bullshit like that and still get a very good-paying job, IF you go to a top school and have an outgoing personality. Tons of them get into sales jobs at major manufacturers, and then climb the ladder. Personality & people skills matters more than what you studied.

Lots of things that was originally supposed to be temporary end up being perpetual. You can throw in the "temporary" extension of unemployment benefits or "temporary" cut in the payroll tax. In my view the difference is public opinion toward taxes change over time and rates change as a result. Keep in mind Clinton was able to create a brand new higher tax bracket for "the rich" less than 20 years ago. "Think of the children!" on the other hand seems to always maintain influence. Before you say it, I know Clinton "reformed" welfare as well, but really how is that working out?

So..... What's the point of the degree?

Employers use the fact that you have a degree to assume that you will strive for higher education and continue to learn, which benefits them...

I think it's more about being able to commit to something and finish it...

Or...

Start with a cage containing five monkeys. Inside the cage, hang a banana on a string and place a set of stairs under it. Before long, a monkey will go to the stairs and start to climb towards the banana. As soon as he touches the stairs, spray all of the monkeys with cold water. After a while, another monkey makes an attempt with the same result - all the monkeys are sprayed with cold water. Pretty soon, when another monkey tries to climb the stairs, the other monkeys will try to prevent it. Now, turn off the cold water. Remove one monkey from the cage and replace it with a new one. The new monkey sees the banana and wants to climb the stairs. To his surprise and horror, all of the other monkeys attack him. After another attempt and attack, he knows that if he tries to climb the stairs, he will be assaulted. Next, remove another of the original five monkeys and replace it with a new one. The newcomer goes to the stairs and is attacked. The previous newcomer takes part in the punishment with enthusiasm. Again, replace a third original monkey with a new one. The new one makes it to the stairs and is attacked as well. Two of the four monkeys that beat him have no idea why they were not permitted to climb the stairs, or why they are participating in the beating of the newest monkey. After replacing the fourth and fifth original monkeys, all the monkeys that have been sprayed with cold water have been replaced. Nevertheless, no monkey ever again approaches the stairs. Why not? Because as far as they know that's the way it's always been around here!
And that is how many corporate policies start...

The value of the degree depends partly on where it's from. When I said a Greek History major might get a good job, I meant only certain kinds of positions like a sales or advertising executive, where your people skills & popularity matter more than whether you know how the business world works. And you have to have gone to a really good school that those companies recruit from. Some companies only recruit from a handful of schools. They figure that even if you don't know how to calculate profit or market share, you're smart enough to learn it quickly. At least that's what I've seen.

If you are getting your undergrad in Greek history...chances are it is just the first degree you are getting on your way to a Phd. and you have big plans on contributing to the wealth of research out there.

If someone is majoring in something like that "just because" then chances are no matter what they major in they will be working in starbucks.

If there's just an average student, yes

But if they went to a top school, have a stellar personality, leadership experience, good with people, and are up to speed on pop culture, there are plenty of advertising agencies that will hire them.

Sales positions too.

You don't need a business degree to get into business, unless you're talking about a Finance or Accounting position.

Personally I would rather hire a Greek Philosophy major who busted his ass and was really really enthusiastic about it, rather than someone whose sole reason for majoring in Business was because of job possibilities and because it's a relatively easy major.

You're talking about the 1-in-1000 top student. For that exceptional population, it doesn't matter much what they get a degree in. They already have the tools needed to succeed. They're also depressingly rare when interviewing candidates.