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Papa_Complex 11-09-2011 09:22 AM
Recent immigrant steals veterans donation boxes
 
This takes some careful reading, to get the full gist of it. "Breach of recognizance" means that he was convicted of something prior to this, and was given release terms (parole, probation, etc.). In other words it isn't his first crime.

Accused in poppy box thefts in court

By Rob Lamberti ,Toronto Sun

First posted: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 10:45 AM EST | Updated: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 12:52 PM EST

TORONTO - A Hamilton poppy bandit struck for the third time as a Toronto man awaits his bail hearing on unrelated charges of stealing poppy donation boxes.

Tomas Hvozdar, 26, is expected to have his bail hearing later today as court awaits a Czech interpreter.

He’s charged with stealing three poppy boxes and failing to comply with recognizance in connection with a July 6 arrest for theft.

“I can’t tell whether he’s done this or not,” his lawyer Alison MacKay said outside court before his bail hearing.

“But I can tell you Tomas is going through a very difficult time,” she said.

“His common-law wife’s daughter is 18 and she is dying of cancer,” MacKay said.

“So they’re expecting her to have basically three weeks to a month. I can’t discuss anything more.”

But MacKay said that Hvozdar is a fairly recent immigrant to Canada and may not understand the significance of poppies to Canadians.

Meanwhile, a bandit has taken poppy donations boxes for a third time since Nov. 3 in Hamilton.

At around 1:20 a.m. Tuesday, the bandit enter a Tim Hortons on Barton St. E. near Grays Rd. and made off with two boxes.

He earlier stole boxes from two other Tim shops, one of which was captured on video and released by police.

Police are asking for help in identifying him. Anyone with information is asked to call 905-546-4925 or Crime Stoppers at 1-800-222-8477.

AquaPython 11-09-2011 12:44 PM
what the hell is a poppy box?

OneSickPsycho 11-09-2011 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by AquaPython (Post 498266)
what the hell is a poppy box?
Is it related to a poppycock?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...k_Close_up.jpg

Papa_Complex 11-09-2011 12:51 PM
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I figured that you guys wouldn't know, which is why I called it "veterans donations." The poppy is the symbol of the Royal Canadian Legion; the organization of military veterans. It became the symbol, of our military veterans, because of a poem written by a soldier during WWI.

In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.

Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.


They support things like the Remembrance Day ceremonies (like Veterans' Day, for you guys). To this end they sell little plastic poppy pins, in donation boxes, in stores. You drop a few cents in and take a pin.

AquaPython 11-09-2011 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho (Post 498267)
i dont know about that, but ill take some of this:
http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/ian%2...0poppycock.JPG

Archren 11-09-2011 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Papa_Complex (Post 498268)
I figured that you guys wouldn't know, which is why I called it "veterans donations." The poppy is the symbol of the Royal Canadian Legion; the organization of military veterans. It became the symbol, of our military veterans, because of a poem written by a soldier during WWI.

In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.

Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.


They support things like the Remembrance Day ceremonies (like Veterans' Day, for you guys). To this end they sell little plastic poppy pins, in donation boxes, in stores. You drop a few cents in and take a pin.

The story/history is not as prevalent here, but I have seen those little plastic poppies given out at veterans' events in the past.

Trip 11-09-2011 01:59 PM
Poppies, poppies will make them sleep

Tmall 11-09-2011 02:05 PM
Why hasn't be been deported yet?

Papa_Complex 11-09-2011 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Tmall (Post 498295)
Why hasn't be been deported yet?
Likely just stuck to petty stuff. It takes a serious infraction, before they toss you back on a plane.

Rangerscott 11-09-2011 09:39 PM
So Canada is just like America when it comes to criminals with the "Catch & Release" program. I guess it gets the bills paid and provides job security.

Papa_Complex 11-10-2011 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Rangerscott (Post 498397)
So Canada is just like America when it comes to criminals with the "Catch & Release" program. I guess it gets the bills paid and provides job security.
Unfortunately yes, to some degree, but you have to draw the line somewhere. People shouldn't really be tossed out for doing 5 Kmh over the speed limit but I think that theft, petty or otherwise, should constitute a reason for deportation.

Particle Man 11-10-2011 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Rangerscott (Post 498397)
So Canada is just like America when it comes to criminals with the "Catch & Release" program. I guess it gets the bills paid and provides job security.
Indeed. Check the last 2 paragraphs of a very recent local example of this.

http://www.cnycentral.com/news/story...1#.Tru91rd5mc0

And again here: http://bit.ly/vheS4k

Homeslice 11-10-2011 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Papa_Complex (Post 498423)
Unfortunately yes, to some degree, but you have to draw the line somewhere. People shouldn't really be tossed out for doing 5 Kmh over the speed limit but I think that theft, petty or otherwise, should constitute a reason for deportation.
Why should it take another crime to deport someone? An illegal immigrant has already done something illegal.

Papa_Complex 11-10-2011 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 498518)
Why should it take another crime to deport someone? An illegal immigrant has already done something illegal.
Who said he was an illegal?

shmike 11-11-2011 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Papa_Complex (Post 498526)
Who said he was an illegal?
He's from California, he doesn't know there is any other kind.

Papa_Complex 11-11-2011 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by shmike (Post 498548)
He's from California, he doesn't know there is any other kind.
But the folks from Texas didn't screw that up.

Homeslice 11-11-2011 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by shmike (Post 498548)
He's from California, he doesn't know there is any other kind.
There are plenty of legal immigrants......They just usually don't get deported very often, which is why I incorrectly assumed this article was about an illegal one.

fasternyou929 11-13-2011 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Papa_Complex (Post 498268)
They support things like the Remembrance Day ceremonies (like Veterans' Day, for you guys). To this end they sell little plastic poppy pins, in donation boxes, in stores. You drop a few cents in and take a pin.
Interesting, I was in London the week of Halloween and a bunch of people were wearing those poppy pins.

Papa_Complex 11-14-2011 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by fasternyou929 (Post 498722)
Interesting, I was in London the week of Halloween and a bunch of people were wearing those poppy pins.
There's also a peacenik group, that's trying to co-opt the symbol by selling white poppies "for peace." Rather distasteful, for those who understand the significance of the symbol.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/prince...egion-584.html

Particle Man 11-14-2011 06:47 AM
There is always some group that pulls a stunt like that.

Papa_Complex 11-14-2011 07:14 AM
This particular stunt started in England, in the 1930s.

Particle Man 11-14-2011 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Papa_Complex (Post 498800)
This particular stunt started in England, in the 1930s.
With the rain, that's only like 2 years worth of sunshine :lol:

Smittie61984 11-14-2011 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Particle Man (Post 498893)
With the rain, that's only like 2 years worth of sunshine :lol:
Oh, how I remember the 3day sun storm in '88.

Particle Man 11-14-2011 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Smittie61984 (Post 498905)
Oh, how I remember the 3day sun storm in '88.
They'd spontaneously combust from 3 days of sunlight

Papa_Complex 11-14-2011 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Particle Man (Post 498913)
They'd spontaneously combust from 3 days of sunlight
SPF500 sun block is available, for that pasty skin. They just have to be real quick at applying it, or they go up like vampires.

Smittie61984 11-14-2011 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Papa_Complex (Post 498916)
SPF500 sun block is available, for that pasty skin. They just have to be real quick at applying it, or they go up like vampires.
For some reason I have trouble picturing "paste" of anykind touching a brit. That'd be like a deoderant bar hitting the armpit of a french man or a persian not wearing designer glasses. It ain't gonna happen.


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