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goof2 01-21-2010 10:21 AM

Massive amount of ugly added to Mini
 
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Enjoy the new Mini SUV.:td:

http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2010/...ex.html?hpt=T2

Dave 01-21-2010 10:26 AM

can this brand be ripped from bmw by force yet?

pauldun170 01-21-2010 10:29 AM

You have to be a real idiot (at least auto ignoramus) to call that an SUV.
You'd have to be deuchebag to call it a CUV.

I guess for the US they need to butch it up our market by calling it an SUV instead of just saying: Hey look, we now offer a Mini Cooper 4dr!!

pauldun170 01-21-2010 10:35 AM

That thing is going to run 30-40K

c-r-a-c-k--p-i-p-e

z06boy 01-21-2010 10:39 AM

Not my idea of a Mini but then again I couldn't believe it when Porsche started producing SUV's either.

A girl at work came in to the office with a new Mini Vert the other day but I haven't checked it out yet.

Don't they already have a 4 -door called a Clubman or something ?

smileyman 01-21-2010 10:45 AM

They have a power up version called the clubman but I think its a restyled 2 door with a hatch or larger back seat/wheelbase.
I think its cute but no way I am passing up a Camaro or '11 Mustang at the same price...

goof2 01-21-2010 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by pauldun170 (Post 323103)
That thing is going to run 30-40K

c-r-a-c-k--p-i-p-e

You can do that with a normal bodied Cooper S if you aren't careful with the options (including the John Cooper Works package). I really don't understand who buys them.

z06boy 01-21-2010 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by smileyman (Post 323109)
They have a power up version called the clubman but I think its a restyled 2 door with a hatch or larger back seat/wheelbase.
I think its cute but no way I am passing up a Camaro or '11 Mustang at the same price...

I agree.

Ok this is why I "thought" there was already a 4 door version but I now see it's not.

http://www.carphotos.org/wp-content/...er_clubman.jpg

goof2 01-21-2010 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by z06boy (Post 323105)
Not my idea of a Mini but then again I couldn't believe it when Porsche started producing SUV's either.

A girl at work came in to the office with a new Mini Vert the other day but I haven't checked it out yet.

Don't they already have a 4 -door called a Clubman or something ?

The Clubman has a rear hinged half door similar to those on extended cab pickups. It also has an extended wheelbase.

This is accidentally ugly. They should have gone intentionally ugly and done something similar to the Mini Moke.

wildchild 01-21-2010 01:01 PM

the hood boys are gonna love it. you can finally put 20's on a mini.

looks like a POS, useless as an SUV and now useless as a well handling small car too.

BobTheBiker 01-21-2010 01:43 PM

looks like a baby porsche cayenne to me. do not want.

neebelung 01-21-2010 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by smileyman (Post 323109)
They have a power up version called the clubman but I think its a restyled 2 door with a hatch or larger back seat/wheelbase.
I think its cute but no way I am passing up a Camaro or '11 Mustang at the same price...

No, the Mini Cooper S is the "power up" version.

The Clubman is indeed a bigger Mini (we call it the "Maxi"), with more room and barn doors out back. Seriously cute, IMO.

neebelung 01-21-2010 02:43 PM

And that NEW Mini is flippin CUUUUUUUUTEEEE... not $40K worth of cute,but cute nonetheless!

Homeslice 01-21-2010 02:46 PM

I thought you could get a basic Mini in the low 20's, and an S model in the high 20's.

At the time when it originally came out, it had the smallest wheelbase around, for good handling and tossability. And the interior was very unique. And then you've got the whole nostalgia thing going on with middle-aged people who remember the original Mini.........So, the high price was understandable at the time.

neebelung 01-21-2010 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 323244)
I thought you could get a basic Mini in the low 20's, and an S model in the high 20's.

At the time when it originally came out, it had the smallest wheelbase around, for good handling and tossability. And the interior was very unique, and then you've got the whole nostalgia thing going on with middle-aged people who remember the original Mini.........So, the high price was understandable at the time.

And they ARE fun to drive. I love them. The S can be flung around like nobody's business... I remember going for test drive with a friend who wanted one, and the salesman took us offroad into some dirt and was doing itty bitty donuts with it... :lol I know Zoomie loves hers.

And they ARE a BMW, so the quality is very nice; I just can't see spending $40K for that Mini CUV.

pauldun170 01-21-2010 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 323244)
I thought you could get a basic Mini in the low 20's, and an S model in the high 20's.

At the time when it originally came out, it had the smallest wheelbase around, for good handling and tossability. And the interior was very unique. And then you've got the whole nostalgia thing going on with middle-aged people who remember the original Mini.........So, the high price was understandable at the time.

You are correct on the prices.
Its the works package that takes it in the mid to high 40's.

What middle aged person in this country cares about the Mini?
Mini was never a big thing in American automotive landscape.

Homeslice 01-21-2010 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by pauldun170 (Post 323250)

What middle aged person in this country cares about the Mini?
Mini was never a big thing in American automotive landscape.

I very rarely see anyone under 35 in one.

It's basically the same types of people I see in Miatas.........Age 40-55 White people.

People younger than that usually want a more "macho" vehicle, because they're still in that whole "being hard/badass/gotta protect my masculinity" stage of their life.

azoomm 01-21-2010 03:03 PM

They hae missed the mark with this new line. I just had a loaner Clubman from the dealer for a week... it is HORRIBLE. The handling is tragic - it "swims" as you drive it straight, I called it drunk driving trials. It seriously feels like the car is swimming down the freeway.

The transmission. Ugh, yikes. I had the step-tronic automatic with paddles. It was explained to me that it was the same transmission used in the BMWs. I don't believe it. No way. Not smooth, I could feel every up shift and down shift. If I locked it into use for the paddles it would revert to drive on it's own. It made OK power for a MiniS, but ick.

Not a fan.

And, what are they thinking, using the same motor for a larger vehicle? Power to weight is the advantage a MiniS has. [sarcasm]YAY, let's make it bigger!

Homeslice 01-21-2010 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by azoomm (Post 323252)
They hae missed the mark with this new line. I just had a loaner Clubman from the dealer for a week... it is HORRIBLE. The handling is tragic - it "swims" as you drive it straight, I called it drunk driving trials. It seriously feels like the car is swimming down the freeway.

Sounds like most GM sedans, lol

pauldun170 01-21-2010 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 323251)
I very rarely see anyone under 35 in one.

It's basically the same types of people I see in Miatas.........Age 40-55 White people.

People younger than that usually want a more "macho" vehicle, because they're still in that whole "being hard/badass/gotta protect my masculinity" stage of their life.

Maybe because for the young-ins...both Miata and Mini are a tad expensive and there is a lot of alternatives on the market. By the time those youngins hit mid to late 20's they are getting married and having kids so a tiny relatively expensive car looses out to something with more doors and more room for growing families.

Maybe its the simple reason that grownups with more disposable income and no need to hall kids around can splurge on a Mini or a little two seater.

Homeslice 01-21-2010 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by pauldun170 (Post 323258)
Maybe because for the young-ins...both Miata and Mini are a tad expensive and there is a lot of alternatives on the market. By the time those youngins hit mid to late 20's they are getting married and having kids so a tiny relatively expensive car looses out to something with more doors and more room for growing families.

Maybe its the simple reason that grownups with more disposable income and no need to hall kids around can splurge on a Mini or a little two seater.

That too, but mine was more fun to type

pauldun170 01-21-2010 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 323262)
That too, but mine was more fun to type

:lol:

wildchild 01-21-2010 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 323251)
I very rarely see anyone under 35 in one.

It's basically the same types of people I see in Miatas.........Age 40-55 White people.

People younger than that usually want a more "macho" vehicle, because they're still in that whole "being hard/badass/gotta protect my masculinity" stage of their life.

we have 3 here at work all driven by over 40 people. one claims it is for his 17 year old daughter.

pauldun170 01-21-2010 03:48 PM

If Mini's were available at lower price points I would have picked one up....oh crap.
I'm over 35.

never mind

Homeslice 01-21-2010 03:56 PM

There's a guy in my office who has one with the whole British flag paint job........But he's got a Polish last name :scratch: :lol:

goof2 01-21-2010 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by pauldun170 (Post 323258)
Maybe because for the young-ins...both Miata and Mini are a tad expensive and there is a lot of alternatives on the market. By the time those youngins hit mid to late 20's they are getting married and having kids so a tiny relatively expensive car looses out to something with more doors and more room for growing families.

Maybe its the simple reason that grownups with more disposable income and no need to hall kids around can splurge on a Mini or a little two seater.

I agree. For me it comes down to two things, utility and value for money. If I were making this decision right now it would be impossible for me to pick a Mini over a Mazdaspeed 3.

z06boy 01-21-2010 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pauldun170 (Post 323258)
Maybe because for the young-ins...both Miata and Mini are a tad expensive and there is a lot of alternatives on the market. By the time those youngins hit mid to late 20's they are getting married and having kids so a tiny relatively expensive car looses out to something with more doors and more room for growing families.

Maybe its the simple reason that grownups with more disposable income and no need to hall kids around can splurge on a Mini or a little two seater.


This pretty much had been my argument through the years for owning a Vette when someone wanted to call it a "mid life crisis car". Some of the same principles apply. I couldn't afford a new Vette when I was 20 and single. :lol:

Get a little older...make more $$...no kids in the house and first thing someone says is oh "mid life crisis". :damn: :lol:

z06boy 01-21-2010 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by wildchild (Post 323266)
we have 3 here at work all driven by over 40 people. one claims it is for his 17 year old daughter.

The lady here at work that drove up in the Vert the other day is around 60.

pauldun170 01-21-2010 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by z06boy (Post 323276)
This pretty much had been my argument through the years for owning a Vette when someone wanted to call it a "mid life crisis car". Some of the same principles apply. I couldn't afford a new Vette when I was 20 and single. :lol:

Get a little older...make more $$...no kids in the house and first thing someone says is oh "mid life crisis". :damn: :lol:

Men buy cars.
Women buy Jewelry and clothes (and in some cases...enhancements)

Yet it is the men who get mocked for mid crisis.

Homeslice 01-21-2010 04:42 PM

"Midlife crisis" is a phrase used by young people jealous of the material goods owned by older people.

z06boy 01-21-2010 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by pauldun170 (Post 323278)
Men buy cars.
Women buy Jewelry and clothes (and in some cases...enhancements)

Yet it is the men who get mocked for mid crisis.

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Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 323279)
"Midlife crisis" is a phrase used by young people jealous of the material goods owned by older people.

Agree with both !!

azoomm 01-21-2010 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by pauldun170 (Post 323278)
Men buy cars.
Women buy Jewelry and clothes (and in some cases...enhancements)

Yet it is the men who get mocked for mid crisis.

If it makes you feel better, I mock women for their choices :lol:

pauldun170 01-21-2010 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 323279)
"Midlife crisis" is a phrase used by young people jealous of the material goods owned by older people.


Midlife Crisis is a term used by women who are pissed off that men would spend a large amount of time or money on something that is "just for him" and not "for us" or "the family".

Homeslice 01-21-2010 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by pauldun170 (Post 323288)
Midlife Crisis is a term used by women who are pissed off that men would spend a large amount of time or money on something that is "just for him" and not "for us" or "the family".

It is also used by people who apparently can't understand the concept that maybe people bought a car because they like it, not because they are trying to appear younger.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pauldun170 (Post 323278)
Men buy cars.
Women buy Jewelry and clothes (and in some cases...enhancements)

Yet it is the men who get mocked for mid crisis.

Signature-worthy observation.

wildchild 01-21-2010 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by pauldun170 (Post 323278)
Men buy cars.
Women buy Jewelry and clothes (and in some cases...enhancements)

Yet it is the men who get mocked for mid crisis.


oh I thought men by cars and women get divorced and use his money to buy fake body parts and go on a diet and suddenly want to go out and be active. then they chase younger guys around. :lol

OneSickPsycho 01-21-2010 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by pauldun170 (Post 323103)
That thing is going to run 30-40K

c-r-a-c-k--p-i-p-e

I liked it until I read that...

Rangerscott 01-23-2010 04:47 PM

Looks like its going for the Kia Soul look on the front end.

karl_1052 01-23-2010 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by azoomm (Post 323287)
If it makes you feel better, I mock women for their choices :lol:

Yeah, but you have a mini and a Ducati, so you must be going through a midlife crisis.;)

azoomm 01-23-2010 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by karl_1052 (Post 324041)
Yeah, but you have a mini and a Ducati, so you must be going through a midlife crisis.;)

Clearly.

Now, I just need some boobs and the universe will spin in the right direction.


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