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pauldun170 12-21-2009 09:43 AM

Dont bring a gun to a snowball fight
 
http://www.1010wins.com/VIDEO--Off-D...ll-Fig/5941733

shmike 12-21-2009 10:05 AM

I hope there is a follow up to this...

Kaneman 12-21-2009 10:39 AM

He's just doing his job. Don't do anything wrong and you'll never have anything to worry about!

derf 12-21-2009 10:41 AM

Why would you walk closer to the dude holding the gun?

CasterTroy 12-21-2009 10:42 AM

Hummer
Gun
Entitlement

Could he compensate any more?

Kaneman 12-21-2009 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by derf (Post 308605)
Why would you walk closer to the dude holding the gun?

Because you're not afraid of bullies.

Here's the video, even worse than the story itself. This cocksucker is daring people to throw snowballs at it under penalty of death.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540...08201#34508201

derf 12-21-2009 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaneman (Post 308612)
Because you're not afraid of bullies.

Here's the video, even worse than the story itself. This cocksucker is daring people to throw snowballs at it under penalty of death.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540...08201#34508201

I'm not scared of guns, I'm scared of idiots with guns

Kaneman 12-21-2009 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by derf (Post 308620)
I'm not scared of guns, I'm scared of idiots with guns

Yea I hear ya dude, no doubt. Despite the fear, my #1 goal in dealing with someone who's brandishing a firearm is to get as close to him as possible. At 1 foot I'm about to take control, at 10ft I'm fucked.

derf 12-21-2009 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaneman (Post 308625)
Yea I hear ya dude, no doubt. Despite the fear, my #1 goal in dealing with someone who's brandishing a firearm is to get as close to him as possible. At 1 foot I'm about to take control, at 10ft I'm fucked.

Yeh, i think I'd be better off hiding behind someone else

Kaneman 12-21-2009 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by derf (Post 308626)
Yeh, i think I'd be better off hiding behind someone else

My wife would be with me at any kind of event like that, so that's not an option. She runs, I confront.

Yes, we're dorks, and yes we've gone over our response in less than favorable situations.

fasternyou929 12-21-2009 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaneman (Post 308627)
My wife would be with me at any kind of event like that, so that's not an option. She runs, I confront.

Yes, we're dorks, and yes we've gone over our response in less than favorable situations.

Good call, give her a false sense of security and she'll never see the trip & shove coming! You'll be long gone before she even figures out what happened!

derf 12-21-2009 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaneman (Post 308627)
My wife would be with me at any kind of event like that, so that's not an option. She runs, I confront.

Yes, we're dorks, and yes we've gone over our response in less than favorable situations.

I can run faster than my wife, our plan is for me to run right in front of her and navigate the path of least resistance, while her job is to stop any stray bullets that might try and hit me.

Homeslice 12-22-2009 01:34 AM

I would like to see a full video from the moment his SUV came onto the scene. The video only shows the gun out, it doesn't show him pulling it. What if, right before pulling it, he got hit in the head by a snowball with a rock in it?

anthonyk 12-22-2009 09:14 AM

Unless someone shot at his SUV, I'm not seeing much excuse for pulling a gun. Maybe he slipped when he got out, and it fell out on the ground. Even then, still a dumbass.

Kaneman 12-22-2009 11:39 AM

This doucher has been a cop for 25 years...you think its the first time he's used the threat of deadly force inappropriately, or just the first time he's been recorded and posted on YouTube? Trying to tell you guys, these kind of people are rampant in police forces around the country.

A police officer in the US has been slapped down by his department after pulling a gun during a mass snowball fight.

Washington DC Metropolitan Police Chief Cathy Lanier said the plain-clothed detective’s actions were “totally inappropriate” and that he had been put on desk duty pending an investigation.

It follows the release of footage of the off-duty officer brandishing the weapon after apparently being hit by a snowball on Saturday.

Around 200 people had gathered on Washington DC’s 14th Street to take part in the mass snowball fight.

But the jovial atmosphere took a twist when the plain-clothed policeman brandished his gun after his car was apparently hit.

Amid chants of “Don’t bring a gun to a snowball fight”, the armed man identified himself as “Detective Baylor”.

He told revellers that he pulled his gun “because I got hit with snowballs”.

In footage that was later posted on YouTube, Detective Baylor went on to angrily challenge youngsters to “throw another snowball, throw another snowball”.

The incident ended after a uniformed officer, alerted to reports of an armed man, arrived at the scene.

Yesterday it was announced that the policeman of 25 years – who has not been officially named – has been placed on desk duty and had his badge and weapon withdrawn as a result of the incident.

He could face further action that ranges from a reprimand to dismissal, authorities have said.

Chief Lanier said in a statement: “Let me be very clear in stating that I believe the actions of the officer were totally inappropriate. In no way should he have handled the situation in this manner.”
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z06boy 12-22-2009 01:08 PM

What a dumbazz...he should know better especially with 25 years of experience...geez.

derf 12-22-2009 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaneman (Post 309118)
In footage that was later posted on YouTube, Detective Baylor went on to angrily challenge youngsters to “throw another snowball, throw another snowball”.



Somebody should have thrown another snowball

HurricaneHeather 12-22-2009 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by derf (Post 309173)
Somebody should have thrown another snowball

I think they did. He had snow in his ear. :lol:

What an idiot.

Kaneman 12-22-2009 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by z06boy (Post 309158)
What a dumbazz...he should know better especially with 25 years of experience...geez.

His behavior is the norm for many police officers.

z06boy 12-22-2009 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaneman (Post 309267)
His behavior is the norm for many police officers.

Not the ones I've been around in my lifetime...maybe where you've been.

Don't get me wrong...there are definitely some asshat police officers but they are not in the majority here. :idk:

Kaneman 12-22-2009 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by z06boy (Post 309285)
Not the ones I've been around in my lifetime...maybe where you've been.

Don't get me wrong...there are definitely some asshat police officers but they are not in the majority here. :idk:

I didn't say majority, but it only takes a significant minority to make a huge impact on public relations. And IMO, public relations is everything to a working police force.

My opinion in the matter comes from my experience on both sides of the law from doing numerous ride-alongs, working as an EMT, and as a motorcyclist with a happy throttle hand.

Smittie61984 12-22-2009 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 308962)
I would like to see a full video from the moment his SUV came onto the scene. The video only shows the gun out, it doesn't show him pulling it. What if, right before pulling it, he got hit in the head by a snowball with a rock in it?

The guy is a tool and overreacted. But looking at the hipster looking douchebags there (who don't appear to have jobs that day) I wouldn't be suprised if they targeted his "Gas guzzling global warming machine". I'd be pissed too (if that's what happend).

With 25 years on the police force he should have known that a good ol'fashion baton beat down is all that was needed there.

askmrjesus 12-22-2009 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by z06boy (Post 309158)
What a dumbazz...he should know better especially with 25 years of experience...geez.

25 years can add up to a lot of entitlement issues.

If you're going to pop a fucking artery over a snowball, you need to turn your gun in to the nice man behind door number three, and take a fucking vacation.

JC

Kaneman 12-22-2009 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Smittie61984 (Post 309395)
But looking at the hipster looking douchebags there (who don't appear to have jobs that day) I wouldn't be suprised if they targeted his "Gas guzzling global warming machine"..

I don't get it, were they all wearing Uggs or something? And do most people you know not have vacation time or not like to do fun things?

derf 12-22-2009 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaneman (Post 309405)
I don't get it, were they all wearing Uggs or something? And do most people you know not have vacation time or not like to do fun things?

Ummm, this happened on a saturday

HurricaneHeather 12-22-2009 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by derf (Post 309417)
Ummm, this happened on a saturday

Fuckin slacker hipsters...

derf 12-22-2009 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by HurricaneHeather (Post 309419)
Fuckin slacker hipsters...

Hell yeh they should all be working in the mines!

askmrjesus 12-22-2009 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by derf (Post 309420)
Hell yeh they should all be working in the mines!

Anyone with:

A brain.

A day off, (in the snow, since the whole damn city is shut down).

Saturdays off.

Or a wardrobe that doesn't come from Tractor Supply, or the Sears retard section, is a "hipster".

JC

Homeslice 12-23-2009 12:53 PM

Sears retard section :lol:

Hell, the whole Sears STORE is for retards :lol:

z06boy 12-23-2009 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by askmrjesus (Post 309399)
25 years can add up to a lot of entitlement issues.

If you're going to pop a fucking artery over a snowball, you need to turn your gun in to the nice man behind door number three, and take a fucking vacation.

JC

Agreed

Homeslice 12-23-2009 03:47 PM

I am willing to bet a lot of you guys would get all "road rage" if you got bombarded by snowballs from strangers.

Papa_Complex 12-23-2009 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 309839)
I am willing to bet a lot of you guys would get all "road rage" if you got bombarded by snowballs from strangers.

Perhaps, but an officer who carries a firearm as a matter of course should be able to control himself. Had he stayed in his vehicle, there would have been little issue.

This sort of behaviour should result in a suspension, at the very least.

Kaneman 12-23-2009 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 309839)
I am willing to bet a lot of you guys would get all "road rage" if you got bombarded by snowballs from strangers.

I'm willing to bet I wouldn't pull a gun on someone over it, and I'm furthermore willing to bet that a lot of us guys aren't certified officers of the law.

Papa_Complex 12-23-2009 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Smittie61984 (Post 309395)
The guy is a tool and overreacted. But looking at the hipster looking douchebags there (who don't appear to have jobs that day) I wouldn't be suprised if they targeted his "Gas guzzling global warming machine". I'd be pissed too (if that's what happend).

With 25 years on the police force he should have known that a good ol'fashion baton beat down is all that was needed there.

No jobs? Like college and university students who were already adjourned for the break? Like people who work nights?

Kaneman 12-23-2009 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Papa_Complex (Post 309841)
This sort of behaviour should result in a suspension, at the very least.

Bullshit. He should get the same punishment I would get for brandishing a weapon and making threats that imply deadly force as a result of thrown snowballs. That's a felony brotha.

z06boy 12-23-2009 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 309839)
I am willing to bet a lot of you guys would get all "road rage" if you got bombarded by snowballs from strangers.

I wouldn't like it but I wouldn't be pulling my gun out on them in the middle of the street.

My car got egged once and it made my paint spiderweb and I just kept rolling and I stopped a few blocks away and walked/snuck back up there and caught the punks doing it...they were younger and yes I scared them a little but that was about it. :idk:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex (Post 309841)
Perhaps, but an officer who carries a firearm as a matter of course should be able to control himself. Had he stayed in his vehicle, there would have been little issue.

This sort of behaviour should result in a suspension, at the very least.

Agreed

karl_1052 12-23-2009 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 309839)
I am willing to bet a lot of you guys would get all "road rage" if you got bombarded by snowballs from strangers.

my car has been hit by snowballs many times, and I just keep rolling by. It is only a fucking snowball.
What if someone in the crowd was carrying?
Shootout?

HurricaneHeather 12-23-2009 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by karl_1052 (Post 309877)
my car has been hit by snowballs many times, and I just keep rolling by. It is only a fucking snowball.
What if someone in the crowd was carrying?
Shootout?

Silly Canadian. Jobless, spoiled, PRB drinking hipsters don't pack heat. Duh.

Amorok 12-23-2009 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 309839)
I am willing to bet a lot of you guys would get all "road rage" if you got bombarded by snowballs from strangers.

Umm, horseshit. As long as I'm in my car I turn the wipers on and laugh, it's all in fun. They're fucking snowballs man, made of snow.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaneman (Post 309839)
Bullshit. He should get the same punishment I would get for brandishing a weapon and making threats that imply deadly force as a result of thrown snowballs. That's a felony brotha.

Could not agree more with this post.
Quote:

What if someone in the crowd was carrying?
A great question by karl. I'm in my neighborhood, a big black dude gets out of an SUV, waves a gun and starts yelling, and it's on. And I'm kind of hard of hearing, so unless the badge is on the necklace I'll probably make a big mistake, especially since I'm most likely a better shot than the cop. I'm not trying to swell my e-penis, just saying, cops are supposed to protect the public. In this situation the cop failed to protect the public from himself.

Homeslice 12-23-2009 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by karl_1052 (Post 309877)
my car has been hit by snowballs many times, and I just keep rolling by. It is only a fucking snowball.

And if those snowballs had ice or rocks in them? You wouldn't do anything?

Kaneman 12-23-2009 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 309887)
And if those snowballs had ice or rocks in them? You wouldn't do anything?

What's your point dude?

What if those snowballs would've had Anthrax, nuclear warheads, AIDS balloons or rabid chimpanzees in them?

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Amorok 12-23-2009 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 309887)
And if those snowballs had ice or rocks in them? You wouldn't do anything?

I'm sorry, did the article mention that the officer got hit with a rockball/iceball? Tell me homeslice, where on the use of force model does an iceball rate? Above pepper spray maybe, but I bet it's BELOW A FUCKING GUN. And if my car gets hit by a snowball containing a rock I'll be pissed, sure, but instead of brandishing a deadly weapon at a bunch of college kids I'll probably call USAA and get my paint touched-up. Of course, I'm not heap big bad-ass cop, maybe that would make me be douchy-er about it like this asshole was. Plus, like Kaneman said, I pull a gun out and wave it at a bunch of kids, I'm getting slapped with a felony. How well do you think "They threw iceballs at my car!" will rate as a defense?

Homeslice 12-23-2009 04:50 PM

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What's your point dude?
Pretty obvious what my point is............What would you do?

I remember several of you bragging about retaliating on cagers by punching their mirrors off, putting dents in their door, or even worse, dropping ball bearings or rolls of quarters behind you, which could result in a serious accident pretty easily. So don't act like you're innocent of uncontrolled emotions.

Homeslice 12-23-2009 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Amorok (Post 309893)
I'm sorry, did the article mention that the officer got hit with a rockball/iceball?

Why would it? Unless of course they interviewed him to get his side of the story. Oh wait, they didn't.

Jesus, I'm just throwing out some what ifs, don't get your panties into a wad.

Kaneman 12-23-2009 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 309894)
Pretty obvious what my point is............What would you do?

I remember several of you bragging about retaliating on cagers by punching their mirrors off, putting dents in their door, or even worse, dropping ball bearings or rolls of quarters behind you, which could result in a serious accident pretty easily. So don't act like you're innocent of uncontrolled emotions.

Yea I do that, I knock mirrors off, quite enjoy it too.....AFTER someone makes a deliberate action that could have resulted in my death. If I were in a fucking HUMMER and I got hit with a SNOWBALL....fuck man, nevermind, if you don't get it without a detailed explanation then you just aint gonna get it son.

ON TOP of that, I'm not a fucking cop man. I do not have a license to destroy lives at my discretion. I do not have power over anyone (except my wife cause I own her). Your comparisons are weak and they make Baby Jesus cry.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 309896)
don't get your panties into a wad.

Wad these nuts in your mouth putts.

askmrjesus 12-23-2009 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 309896)

Jesus, I'm just throwing out some what ifs, don't get your panties into a wad.

If I wad them up and throw them at you, are you going to pull a gun on me?

Cause that's fucked up dude.

JC

Homeslice 12-23-2009 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by askmrjesus (Post 309914)
If I wad them up and throw them at you, are you going to pull a gun on me?

If they had skidmarks, yes.

Homeslice 12-23-2009 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaneman (Post 309908)
Yea I do that, I knock mirrors off, quite enjoy it too.....AFTER someone makes a deliberate action that could have resulted in my death. If I were in a fucking HUMMER and I got hit with a SNOWBALL....fuck man, nevermind, if you don't get it without a detailed explanation then you just aint gonna get it son.

Yeah, I get it "son". Although personally if I felt my safety was at risk, I'd twist the throttle instead of taking the time to punch someone's mirror off.

Which scenario do you think is more likely, that he'll learn a lesson and never put riders at risk anymore, or that he'll hold a grudge against riders in general?

Kaneman 12-23-2009 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 309924)
Yeah, I get it "son". Although personally if I felt my safety was at risk, I'd twist the throttle instead of taking the time to punch someone's mirror off.

Which scenario do you think is more likely, that he'll learn a lesson and never put riders at risk anymore, or that he'll hold a grudge against riders in general?

Honestly don't give a flying fuck as long as he has to pay to replace his mirror. You're never going to change anyone's mind set, people are who they are. Dickheads who would try to kill a motorcyclist in traffic, or even make a move suggesting they would do so are always going to be dickheads no matter what. Better they should recv some type of punishment, even if it is as small as having to replace the mirror on their Lexus.

karl_1052 12-23-2009 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 309887)
And if those snowballs had ice or rocks in them? You wouldn't do anything?

I would call the cops, but I guarantee the cops around here would leave their guns in their holsters.

askmrjesus 12-23-2009 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karl_1052 (Post 309938)
I would call the cops, but I guarantee the cops around here would leave their guns in their holsters.

Yeah, but your cops wouldn't even pull a gun on Snidely Whiplash, if he tied Nell to the railroad tracks.

JC

Papa_Complex 12-23-2009 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by askmrjesus (Post 309949)
Yeah, but your cops wouldn't even pull a gun on Snidely Whiplash, if he tied Nell to the railroad tracks.

JC

Dudley Do-right was a Mountie, not a regular cop, in a pre-Taser world. Snidely Whiplash wasn't Polish, so he got a walk.

askmrjesus 12-23-2009 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Papa_Complex (Post 309953)
Dudley Do-right was a Mountie, not a regular cop, in a pre-Taser world. Snidely Whiplash wasn't Polish, so he got a walk.

I hope you realize you just fell head first into a nerd trap.

Who the fuck even knows who Dudley Do-Right is?

Nerds, that's who.

Wait. Goddammit, I'm doing this wrong.

Shit.

JC

Papa_Complex 12-23-2009 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by askmrjesus (Post 309959)
I hope you realize you just fell head first into a nerd trap.

Who the fuck even knows who Dudley Do-Right is?

Nerds, that's who.

Wait. Goddammit, I'm doing this wrong.

Shit.

JC

I'm Canadian. I have an excuse. Now try a Mr. Canoehead or Sergeant Renfrew reference.

"... When I regained consciousness...."


I thought that your omniscience was in the shop this week?


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