no prior to that... the I4's were getting killed by the Vtwins... hence honda racing the RC51 and not the 954...

then the I4's took off and started whoop'n on the V-twins... now the playing field is about level with the V-twins given 200cc's extra.

gotcha

Exactly. Meanwhile those are the same guys who have 4" chicken strips and LED engine lights on 2 year old bikes with 1200 miles on them... People who actually RIDE their bikes are generally less concerned with the spec sheet.

Heh, these are also the same guys who tell you they've had their 600 up to 185mph or they've had their 1k up to 215mph... Within the past week I've ran into TWO of those retards.

Yea I see those guys too...I try to ignore them. It's funny tho' when you run into them at a bike night and they try to drag you into their bullshit...

"Hey dude,you have a 1000,I was just telling these girls that mine will do over 200mph,right?"

"Nope,Mine will "only" do about 175mph,Maybe yours is "special""

A guy at work asked me the other night, "how fast you had that thing?"... I told him an indicated 165... He was like, "shit, you could get that thing over 200 easy..., I had my '07 GSXR 6 up to 185..." Then I started telling him about the 186 gentlemens agreement in the industry and the history behind it... and that he was totally full of shit...

Yea well,I know a kid that SWEARS his 600rr does 200 mph!!! Right..:dthumb:

Fuck me... where were we???? Drewpy and I ran into some douche who said the same thing about his GSXR600 one time... It was at a gas station somewhere, but I don't remember exactly where or what trip we were on... I can remember the douchebag's face like a champ all day long though...

Ranks right up there with the dork that claimed his stock exhaust 'Busa had a turbo...I'm like yea,sure buddy!

I tell them 45mph. Thats the fastest I ever got it.


(*insert your shitty Buell jokes and how they have no top end*)

I seem to recall the rules being that the i4s were either unrestricted 800ccs and or 1000 with restrictor plates when Hayden was "kicking" everybody's ass.


Edit: The 1000cc I4s weren't even allowed in 02 it seems..

http://www.bcsportbikes.com/forum/ar...hp/t-7646.html I know it's not quite a technical source, but it's a list for the 03 rules, and it seems the 1000s were being introduced that year.

Soooo.. Honda wouldn't have been allowed to race the 954 when Nicky won the championship.

you've got this all fucked up. superbike rules were i4 750s vs v2 1000s. 954's raced in formula extreme. twins always seem to need about a 200 cc advantage to be able to play :whistle:

ahh ok... thanks.

ok... not the first time I was wrong... thanks for clear'n it up though

no problemo

dammit j. squid, givin me bad info :lol:

which is what i originally thought-kinda goes across all forms of racing

:dthumb:

Yeah, met a kid in IA said he had his SV650 up to 190...
Just nodded and smiled, as he proceded to kill it... 3 times... leaving the parking lot.

Unless it's a Buell,then they need double the cc's and they STILL can't play!

Our dicks are usually double the displacement of the typical I4 rider as well. There's lots to be said about a person who has nothing to prove. :whistle:

haha of course you know i was talking about liquid cooled dohc twins :dthumb:

hah if that were true you'd never get laid. :zowned:

Yeesh! What is it with you guys and penises? First my cock size is called into question on the watch thread and now here. Can't a guy have a liter bike and a "nice" watch without having a small dick? As I've offered before,if necessary,I'll be glad to post up picks to prove that I indeed have a dick of more than proficient size.

You know,you people chose to buy underpowered,heavy and comparatively slow bikes. You remind me of the short guy in the bar that constantly picks fights with bigger guys. The exact make,model and year of my bike has won championships in almost every series that it competed in. I keep hearing about how great the Buell is. How outstandingly it handles,the superb power delivery,it's excellent brakes,etc. Well,why isn't it kicking ass in superstock? They let the Firebolt race supersport,where's the championship,hmmmm? Maybe I don't have anything to prove,maybe you're too big of a pussy to own my bike! How's that for a theory? Hmmmmm.....?

Yea if these guys have 18" dicks,I'll....pay someone to suck them!

Some of us don't buy bikes because they win races... In fact, 99.9% of us don't ride our bikes to their potential... So who the fuck cares what we ride?

You are starting to sound like those "my 600 does 212mph" guys we were blasting on in the other thread.

if u have a 18inch dong, u'd be getting laid everyday, cuz if you had a 18incher, you'd do porn. if you didnt, ur an idiot.

how bout some more pics of the tiller osp, get your thread off the dick subject and back on track

exactly!

I'd rather wait until I did something cool with the Tiller first...

Quoted for truth.

5 cans of flat black.
do it lol

Gotta do some non-cosmetic things first...

really? musta missed something, whats up with it? or just perf mods first is your thinkin?

Maintenance and performance modding...

gotcha
im in your same boat,
i get to build a busa starting this week

Aw come on you cocksuckers! That fucktard started it with the "you're compensating" comment! Besides it's not my "opinion" it's proven fact the winning on Sunday sells on Monday. Besides,why aren't my reasons for buying a bike as valid as yours? Some of you have stated that you bought the bike you have solely to be different. I think that's a stupid reason to pick a bike myself. I know a bunch of you bought your bike because of brand loyalty,another stupid reason IMHO. Shit,some of you picked your bikes strictly because of the color or the way it looks! SERIOUSLY? Are you all saying that performance had NOTHING to do with your decision to buy a SPORT BIKE?

Oh and that's not fair,I'm not stating that my bike does anything that it doesn't. being proud of actual accomplishments is not the same thing as making shit up! I picked my bike for several reasons but performance was definitely one of them,go ahead and fucking shoot me!!!

Yea I know,I'm just fucking with them!

Then why not get a 250?

only reason that matters is your reason, cuz its your money. end of story.

Complete truth!

cause I didn't want one. and I knew I could keep my ego in check enough to not get out of control on a 600.

I'd actually like to have a little 250 now for commuting... think'n of maybe buy'n my bro's when he moves up

or so u thought mr loopy

:whistle:

hey that was after 4000 miles in like 13 days... and 200 miles already in that day... I was tired... but most of all... it was a lack of attention to what I was doing... I became complacent... not cocky...

i know, but u set it up so perfectly, i was obligated to knock it down-twfix way homie:dthumb:

Wait did YOU just say that YOU KNEW that you could keep you ego in check enough to NOT get out of control on a 600? Senior Loopy,I can keep MY ego in check enough to own a GSXR1000,YOU on the other hand looped a 600,a ZZR600 at that. Quite frankly,there isn't tangible proof that you should be allowed to ride any bike,much less one more powerful than the one you wrecked doing a wheelie! :whistle:

Anyway,I'm just saying that if performance doesn't matter and only "squids" like myself buy a bike based on how it performs,then all the rest of you should own 250s...who cares how fast it goes right?

says the guy that hit three deer
you know its a deer area, slow the fuck down on that big 1000, creep thru there, no deer problem. would think u would learn after one, but noooo, had to murder two more of natures beautiful creatures.



:lol:

before u guys start talkin about dicks again-ebbs looping and your deerslaying is technically both rider error based on the logic in this thread. so neither one of u should ride. problem solved lol, go buy a razor scooter

and performance isnt just how fast it goes btw

Um you own a fucking 1098. The performance numbers and stats had nothing to do with your decision? So did you buy it just because it a Duc or was it for the pretty color? I mean if you don't care about performance then why not just buy the 800 then? They look similar and it's cheaper.:idk:

All I'm saying is that it gets kinda old that some people think that EVERY decision a guy makes is based on his penis size. I guess that means I should drive an Aero and my bike should be a 50cc moped!:dthumb:

I know... i knew I'd hear flack... :dthumb:

like I said... I looped it from being exhausted... not from squid'n around. and my ZZR600 was an SS in 02 so not sure what the ZZR600 at that comment was about.

and no there is not tangeable proof... like i said... the reason I bought it was BECAUSE I WANTED IT. the fact that I said I knew I could handle it was my justification TO MYSELF... I could care less if you or anyone else thinks I'm able to handle the bike... hence I didn't post up asking anyones opinion when I was in the market.

I still believe I can handle a 600 just fine... I learned the hardway that you can't relax too much and that long trips like that take their toll not only on the body but on the mind. I don't think I'll ever need or want a liter I4. I imagine I could handle one just fine... but I don't care to. they offer nothing I need or want.

Haha my long lost brother! Only one of my deer murders were committed in a posted deer area. To be honest,EVERYWHERE is a deer area around here! There's a carcass across the street from my apt complex and I live 5 miles from downtown. For the record,I wasn't going that fast for any of them and considering that I didn't hit the deck during two of them,I think I did ok. In fact,that point alone illustrates my SUPERIOR ability to control a motorcycle and my worthiness to ride! Besides,you're really stretching here...even the ins companies don't consider deer accidents an at fault collision.

Oh and here's the progression;

I make joke about Buells not being able to compete even with double the ccs and a number of AMA concessions.

Someone else accuses me of riding a GSXR1000 to compensate for my small penis size.

I point out that,unlike Buell,my bike has won several championships and thus has nothing to prove.

OSP and others,say that I'm basically stupid for buying a bike based on performance (even tho' I never stated that's why I bought my bike).

I state that if no one cares about performance then why don't you all just buy 250s?

Ebbs chimes in about how he can control his ego and a 600.

I pick on him for looping a "low performance" 600 and then wanting to go out and buy a high performance 600.

BTW I never said the performance is strictly confined to hp. I know better. Anyway,the debate was I4s vs V twins,I believe. Bottom line,if V twins were so great then they wouldn't NEED special accommodations to win championships! PERIOD! If a V-twin can't win in a level playing field then maybe Ducati should get out of racing,start their own "Thunder" league like Harley, or re-think their engine configuration.

Fuck,when did you guys post all those one liners?

Anyway,your reason for getting the bike you bought was because YOU wanted to. Ok but why is that a better reason than my supposed performance reason? I still don't see that I said that I bought my bike strictly because of it's racing performance...heck,when I got my '01 they hadn't even been raced yet....even so why are your,OSP's,Archen's,etc reasons for buying the bikes you have(had) valid and my "reason" is wrong? Please explain.

#1 i agree, and i was right about to post up behind carolina asking exactly how many times you went DOWN because of deer. :dthumb:

#2 look at the desmo gp7-gp9 :whistle:

Thanks man! *Sniffle* my own long lost brother is against me *sniffle* and a fellow GSXR rider at that....oh the betrayal!

Of course the kicker was someone that owns a 1098 saying that buying a motorcycle based on performance/racing heritage is stupid!!!

one liners?

and I never said my reason was better or worse... than yours... I agreed that 99.9% of us don't ride our bikes to what they're capable of.

your reasons are YOUR REASONS... who the fuck cares if anyone else agree's with them? the ones that try to sell us on their reasons are the ones who drive me nuts... if you wanna start out on a turbo Busa because they make you look more masculine great... go at it... I think your an idiot... because 90% of people can't handle it and I wouldn't wanna put myself in a situation where one little slip up could get me into danger that quick... but it's your choice... but don't try to sell me on it.

Your reason for owning a 1000... great... it works for you... but you haven't tried to justify why you need the performance... I never said it was wrong... just that it's not one that makes sense for me.

in archren's defense it may just have been lust factor. lotsa folks willing to part with ridiculous coin for that red trellis frame alone. now if she had an s or an r it'd be a bit harder to defend lol

True but my point is she doesn't have to defend it! Other than to explain why she's NOT a hypocrite,of course....

Besides,I'm still not sure why that is considered a more valid purchasing reason than performance....

ahh gotcha, i just woke up and didnt see you coming from that angle. well clearly the reason is if you ride a jap I4 bigger than a 750 you are automatically squidly until proven innocent :rolleyes: nevermind that with the extra torque its actually easier to ride on the street and dare i say it? perhaps safer in traffic? i know that when some dumbass cager starts acting funny near me banishing him to the rearview is as simple as cracking the throttle. no mucking about with gears.

Nice try Mr. Have My Cake and Eat It Too...

Your "joke" was humping the same old tired line that everyone and their mom has been riding Buell for, ever since the first motherfucker rolled off the assembly line. It clearly wasn't a joke as confirmed by your continued diatribe of "I4 superiority"...

You made the comment about bikes winning or not winning championships/races, not me. I simply stated that we have different reasons for buying different bikes, some of which have nothing to do with spec sheets and race worthiness. I quoted your post because YOU were the one that brought winning races and championships up... I never stated that as the sole reason... or even part of the decision making process for you buying your bike. I apologize for your lack of reading comprehension (you don't think I could get all the way through this without taking a childish jab at you, did ya?).

V-twins are not great because of what they do or don't to on the race track. In fact, I can honestly say that I've never sat through an entire motorcycle race... I usually watch until commercial and move on to something else. Spec sheets and podium positions are not something I care about. I like a v-twin because of the characteristics of that particular motor layout... the same reasons I dislike I4's. I will say this though... I support the concessions made for v-twins in racing because I know that for manufacturers to continue to develop these engines, they must be in racing.

For one.. when I bought it, the 848 wasn't out yet. They didn't start selling those bikes in the US until this year, and I bought my 1098 shortly after they were released (May 2007).

And I'll break down OSP's comment for you since apparently you missed why I was quoting it:

I know for a fucking fact I will *never* ride my 1098 to it's potential, so spouting off horsepower, torque, and how many championships Ducati has won WSBK with the bike is meaningless because *I* can't ride like those guys. If I try, I'll end up wadding it and wasting the bike. If I wanted those numbers to matter, I'd be racing, and probably not on a 1098.

I didn't buy it because it wins championships. I bought the bike because when I first saw a Ducati years ago it spoke to my soul, and when they released the 1098, I knew that it was going to be *the one* for me. There are faster bikes out there (Desmosedici anyone?) and people who can ride those bikes to their potential.

In short: I bought the 1098 because it makes me cream my panties. Happy? redflip

Same could be said for an SV650.

I think we need to see said panties to ensure proper creamage.

try that one again. i make about double the torque of a 650.

and1

Ok, your point was that you don't need to be shifting all over the place to get out of a tight situation in traffic... My point still stands.

i dunno im just having my morning tea. wtf are we arguing about again?

That you need a liter bike to get out of tight traffic situations.

I bought my bike for a few reasons..

I make more tq off of idle than most i4s make in their top 1/3rd.
The only maintenance on my bike is oil changes and primary chain adjustments.
It was about 4000$ less than an i4 1000, and that's new.
It has a 2 year unlimited milage warranty.
I see about 2-300 typical jap bikes for every Buell I see.
It performs beyond anything I need. I've only had it over 100mph a handful of times, and that was just to see how fast it would really go.

And, finally.. It's a street bike that is capable on the track. As opposed to most other people who buy a race bike and try to ride it on the street. Considering I spend 100% of my time on the street, it's much more practical.

i made a long logical post that argued both sides-but fuck it. this argument/debate is dumb

This thread is hilarious. Tigger, you're a jackass.

Didn't you know? Logic and reason are irrelevant. :lol: :twfix:

You know what? FUCK YOU Marko! Why does everyone else get a pass?

cause... well you are a jack ass... :lol:


naw marko's called us all a jack ass from time to time.

Ha ha whatever! Stop being so darn nice all the time,yeesh!

nope... I'm nice online... but a dick in person... its my SOP :lol:

eh yer enough of a dick online too lol

:lol: shush... people will start to think I'm nice off line too

I love TWF:rockwoot:

All of yall are bitches

that is all carry on and Carolina is a dudes pimp name as in South Carolina

Sorry, but I do believe it was a girl's name first. :nee:

Thank you.

The 929 and 954 have higher bars which makes it more comfortable in urban stop & go, but in the turns I would rather have the TLR's riding position.

Naaa, you're a straight up ass...


and V-twins FTMFW!!!!!!! :rockout:

(even though ebbs could never handle the power/torque)

blah blah blah... get lost... oh wait... you can't... your in North Dakota... where if you stand on your toes... you can see the back of your head

hahahaha

Doesn't that mean I'm already lost? :idk:

fuck you.

no... it means your retarded for living in a place like that

suppose I could move to Korea... that could be fun... NOT!



and besides, where else am I going to find such fertile farm land?

fuck the fertile land...


wait... that was sarcasm cutty... do not fuck the ground... even if Green Team says so...

just move to a place where they have to bend the road around the terrain

Then I have to fine a new profession... :idk:

stock boy at the local motorcycle dealership... so I can get discounts

stock boy my ass.

Service manager/Parts manager or nothing.
And you fucking right I'd be sponsored with a track bike too!

Besides, you're too pussy to ride a buell, except maybe a Blast :lol:

:rf:

blah blah blah. buell was on my short list... but didn't make the final cut.


the fuck you laughing at... you OWNED a blast

as my first bike, yes.

As did I...

Lookie what I ride now. redflip

Well shit,if you automatically get a 1098 afterwards,I'll go buy a fucking Buell Blast!!!

I still have my Blast in the garage if you want to buy it. :nee:

$100 plus shipping and I'm in!

I'd still ride a blast. They are fun little bikes.

Shit yeah.. can't beat 70mpg either.

Exactly. I rode one in the MSF course. Thing was fun.

0.5 + 0.5